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ms80831 07-25-2012 06:06 PM

ArrowCopter Kit Debuts in the U.S. at OSHKOSH
 
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...ts/Arrow37.jpg

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...Copter_300.jpg

Link to EAA story> http://www.airventure.org/news/2012/...uts-in-us.html

By Marino Boric, EAA European Correspondent

ArrowCopter USA announced the ArrowCopter AC10 autogyro kit for the United States market on Wednesday. The AC10 is the kit version of the two-place tandem AC20 autogyro manufactured by FD Composites in Austria. AC10 is on display this week at the Rotax exhibit in booths 265-267 on Celebration Way.

Development began more than six years ago in Austria with the goal of designing a high-end performance autogyro using 21st century methodology to improve the aircraft's flying capabilities and safety.

FD Composites was assisted by Carbo Tech-Austria, a top composite production shop in Europe, using state-of-the-art equipment. Carbo Tech's expertise added designer flair to aerodynamic function.

LSA certification in Europe of the AC20 through AustroControl was obtained on June 22. Interest in the ArrowCopter has been very strong even during the development process especially at European trade shows like AERO Friedrichshafen in Germany. There are already distribution partners in Australia, South Africa, France, and GO GYRO LLC in Baltimore for the U.S. Production is ramping up for early 2013 deliveries, the company stated.

U.S. representative Claudius Klimt has been coordinating with FD Composites for more than two years to establish the foundation to support growth in the U.S. market.

"The U.S. is behind several other countries in their use and acceptance of autogyro technology even though it has been shown for decades to be economical and safe with proper design," he said. "I believe the sophistication and performance of the ArrowCopter will help change that oversight."

The company plans a builder-assist program to streamline the process to two weeks while providing vital builder education. Plans are also in place to offer flight training and the builder-assist program simultaneously.

Price will be around $150,000. For more information visit www.Arrow-Copter.com.

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ckurz7000 07-26-2012 01:58 AM

Just wanted to comment that the picture of the white ArrowCopter is NOT an ArrowCopter!! It was the original prototype, built in 2008. You can see this because of the control rods and the three blade prop. The certified version of the ArrowCopter has control cables and a 2 blade prop. There are lots of other differences, which you don't see in the photo. The certified AC20 is, e.g., 4% larger in all dimensions, stabilizer winglets are 20% larger, the cooling setup is very different, there are position lights on the outside of the main gear winglets, etc.

Just wanted to avoid misconceptions...

-- Chris.

ms80831 07-26-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckurz7000 (Post 485652)
Just wanted to comment that the picture of the white ArrowCopter is NOT an ArrowCopter!! It was the original prototype, built in 2008. You can see this because of the control rods and the three blade prop. The certified version of the ArrowCopter has control cables and a 2 blade prop. There are lots of other differences, which you don't see in the photo. The certified AC20 is, e.g., 4% larger in all dimensions, stabilizer winglets are 20% larger, the cooling setup is very different, there are position lights on the outside of the main gear winglets, etc.

Just wanted to avoid misconceptions...

-- Chris.

Chris

The photo is from ArrowCopter's website (gallery). Thank You for explaining the differences. A truly sleek and appealing Rotorcraft in both configurations.

Mark

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ArrowCopter AC20 - YouTube

A later version in white.

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ms80831 07-26-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckurz7000 (Post 485652)

..."Just wanted to comment that the picture of the white ArrowCopter is NOT an ArrowCopter!! ..."


-- Chris.

Sorry Chris, I can't resist.

It's on the ArrowCopter website, says ArrowCopter on the side, if it's not an ArrowCopter , just what is it ?

I think what you meant to say is it's not the production model but a prototype, which you explained. But Chris, it is an ARROWCOPTER. :)

It sure ain't a Bensen.

paulp 07-26-2012 09:10 AM

Howdy All,

I don't know what it is but @ 150 large I'm not sure that they can keep up with the demand. Those machines will be flying(no pun intended) of the shelf.

ms80831 07-26-2012 10:20 AM

Yea it's expensive, but so is a Ferrari. And this one really flies.

baronpilot 07-27-2012 03:02 AM

$150k? I can think of many more options than this.

Steve_UK 07-27-2012 04:15 AM

The product is not cheap - the company will have spent a small fortune in design, testing and obtaining type certification - it is a high end product and the customers are likely to be those who like high end quality products and have spare money to indulge.

There are cheaper ways to fly a gyro - but those with bucks to spare and who enjoy opulence will find this product much more appealing than a homebuilt Billy Bobb Bedstead Flyer.

Ultimately both fly. Which one will a CEO choose to own.

ckurz7000 07-27-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ms80831 (Post 485705)
Sorry Chris, I can't resist.

It's on the ArrowCopter website, says ArrowCopter on the side, if it's not an ArrowCopter , just what is it ?

I think what you meant to say is it's not the production model but a prototype, which you explained. But Chris, it is an ARROWCOPTER. :)

It sure ain't a Bensen.

I'm just a bit touchy because the name ArrowCopter and the types AC10 (kit built) and AC20 (factory built) mean very specific things, about which the Austrian authorities are very picky. Furthermore, the prototype is very different in many respects. We have also stipulated that the owner of the prototype cannot call it an ArrowCopter.

So....whatchamacallit....how about a prototype of the ArrowCopter?

I'll have to tell them to take it off the gallery and website or else label it accordingly.

-- Chris.

Texasautogyro 07-27-2012 12:06 PM

It almost looks like the white one used an MTO Head, hub bar, and blades for the prototype. The one at OshKosh does not have the same head or blades.

Fly Army 07-27-2012 01:24 PM

I just saw this aircraft up close and personal yesterday and it is very impressive. I spoke with Martin at the display area and he told me that the 912 is not the best choice for the Arrowcopter. He said that the 914 is a better choice and that an even larger HP engine would be better but unfortunately there were not any bigger certified engines available in the weight range that is required.

Penguin 07-27-2012 02:01 PM

Mmmmm. Gyro porn.
And treetop flying.
I got a chubby just watching ...

utahgyrocop 07-27-2012 03:08 PM

Too much information ... LMAO, LOL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 485916)
Mmmmm. Gyro porn.
And treetop flying.
I got a chubby just watching ...

TMI!

Stay safe.

ckurz7000 07-27-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasautogyro (Post 485905)
It almost looks like the white one used an MTO Head, hub bar, and blades for the prototype. The one at OshKosh does not have the same head or blades.

That's right, Desmon. The prototype used those whereas the ArrowCopter now uses a head of its own design.

-- Chris.

Wildcard 08-02-2012 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ms80831 (Post 485619)
http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...ts/arrow37.jpg

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...copter_300.jpg

link to eaa story> http://www.airventure.org/news/2012/...uts-in-us.html

by marino boric, eaa european correspondent

arrowcopter usa announced the arrowcopter ac10 autogyro kit for the united states market on wednesday. The ac10 is the kit version of the two-place tandem ac20 autogyro manufactured by fd composites in austria. Ac10 is on display this week at the rotax exhibit in booths 265-267 on celebration way.

Development began more than six years ago in austria with the goal of designing a high-end performance autogyro using 21st century methodology to improve the aircraft's flying capabilities and safety.

Fd composites was assisted by carbo tech-austria, a top composite production shop in europe, using state-of-the-art equipment. Carbo tech's expertise added designer flair to aerodynamic function.

Lsa certification in europe of the ac20 through austrocontrol was obtained on june 22. Interest in the arrowcopter has been very strong even during the development process especially at european trade shows like aero friedrichshafen in germany. There are already distribution partners in australia, south africa, france, and go gyro llc in baltimore for the u.s. Production is ramping up for early 2013 deliveries, the company stated.

U.s. Representative claudius klimt has been coordinating with fd composites for more than two years to establish the foundation to support growth in the u.s. Market.

"the u.s. Is behind several other countries in their use and acceptance of autogyro technology even though it has been shown for decades to be economical and safe with proper design," he said. "i believe the sophistication and performance of the arrowcopter will help change that oversight."

the company plans a builder-assist program to streamline the process to two weeks while providing vital builder education. Plans are also in place to offer flight training and the builder-assist program simultaneously.

Price will be around $150,000. For more information visit www.arrow-copter.com.

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