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Chad
04-20-2004, 06:17 PM
Anybody have any information on the Shadow? Fly or build one? Good design or bad?

http://www.vortechonline.com/shadow/

TIA
Chad

quadrirotor
04-21-2004, 07:05 AM
That's more or less a clone of the famous SPORTSTER.

http://www.aircraftdesigns.com/

C. Beaty
04-21-2004, 09:48 AM
Joe Cabin said:

"That's more or less a clone of the famous SPORTSTER"

Can't think of a worse pattern. Violent rotor shake from the 2" x 4" mast and no horizontal stabilizer.

quadrirotor
04-21-2004, 11:45 AM
Chuck, what do you mean by Joe Cabin? :mad: put your googles on: both have a HS. :rolleyes: :p

C. Beaty
04-21-2004, 12:51 PM
I am informed that your associates in Quebec refer to you as Joe Cabin, André. I think it has to do with your fixation on cabins.

All of the gyros derived from the Sportster have been atrociously bad.

Don Farrington, who had a bit of gyro experience, took a lap with Martin Hollman around the pattern at Rockford. Don, upon returning said his only hope was that it would hold together for 1 more lap.

My closest experience was a lap with Steve Graves in his Marchetti, a cabinless Sportster. I had the same experience as Don. I never knew anything could shake so badly and be so unstable.

Perhaps Martin has added a horizontal stab and slider since I last saw it.

quadrirotor
04-21-2004, 01:14 PM
I have no associates in Québec so i don't know where you found associates (I was told that's the first symptom of the Alzeimer syndrom...) :D

yes, I do want a cabin...I know how I felt when I flew on a Madmax II in november in Québec... :(

If there are vib&shakes...you know how to cure this problem!...you are a very knowledgeable person! :cool: ...

The HS has always be prescribed by design (ref: the plans. and Modern Gyroplanes Design of Martin Hollman).

only the Marchetti has no HS, I include a photo... :rolleyes:

I am informed that your associates refer to you as "a-little-bit-jalous-of Martin-Holl"... :D