Historic Bensen in Poland

[PTKay]

I visted last week the Thechnology Museum in Warsaw and saw there
this nice Bensen built in 1976.

The engine is 22 hp 2-stoke from an East German car, "Trabant",
a far descendant of DKW.

Kind of nice to see, that sombody cared to try this kind of flying
at that time in Poland ;)

[barnstorm2]

Very cool! neat engine.

[Ken_Boling]

Note the wooden blades, spindle type rotorhead, with the whole assembly mounted UPSIDE DOWN! You did say it was in Poland.

[Brian Jackson]

Just out of curiosity, what prevents the overhead stick from hitting the brace cable when turning?

[Ken_Boling]

An overhead stick usually has an offset section bent into it to allow deflection without hitting the wire brace, or at least mine does. Other people just remove the wire brace since it was for auto towing originally. That stick looks like it was made up in haste the same way the blades were mounted without thinking about them.

[PTKay]

You are right about "made up in haste" and not "thinking about them".

The owners family donated it to the Museum and it was restored from
scratch by some Technical High School pupils, as their students work,
with no intention to fly it again, but just for the museum exposition.

They probably did it even without the drawings :(

But nevertheless, it gives the general public some idea, that there are
also some other flying machines, not only planes and helis ;)

[KenSandyEggo]

Note the wooden blades, spindle type rotorhead, with the whole assembly mounted UPSIDE DOWN! You did say it was in Poland.

I know that gyro. Actually, it was built by a group of mechanical engineers from Arkansas and then exported to an Arkansan who moved to Poland to further his education. I believe he was trying to get a worthwhile high school diploma. :rolleyes:

[Ken_Boling]

Thanks for the encouragement Ken. Thats why I usually lurk as a reader!

[KenSandyEggo]

Until you stop making ethnic cracks, maybe you should. Just throwing it back a little, Ken. Should I just lurk from now on because you insinuated Poles are stupid and wouldn't know how to mount a rotor? That wasn't very encouraging to me. I hope you're not one of those that can make insulting remarks but get offended when called on them. I think I should be able to make a remark about Arkansas engineers as long as you can make a crack about ignorant Poles. What's the difference? Thicken up your skin a little and join the glorious circus here. ;)

[PTKay]

Ken Bowling,

I think you understood, it is a museum exhibit, and as I explained,
put together us such, not a flying machine. Original was an American
design and American (AK) construction (except engine).

If you are intersted in real Polish rotorcraft, we can offer you
a PZL Sokol, flying side by side with your boys in Iraq.

This IS an original Polish product, and now you can start joking again...

BTW: you can see it here

http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3536&page=2&pp=15&highlight=Iraq

post #19, last pic

http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7705

PTKay

[Ken_Boling]

I am interested in all types of rotorcraft and all of the stories told here, especially those by KennyJ. As for the thick skin...all I did was hint and some of you went off on me. Who needs a thick skin? I hear the Arkansas stuff all the time so I am used to it. Make fun of me because I use the overhead stick, a Mac engine and a Bensen airframe...those are good excusses too. Maybe I should post more so you know me better. I usually dont have anything to offer up against those of you with much more Gyro experience. If you need sound Mechanical Engineering advice...I could be of help. Should I use the funny faces here?

[PTKay]

Porobably it would help ;)

I think I forgot using them too :p :D

[automan1223]

If you were going to store or display a set of rotorblades for any period of time, would it not make sense to mount them upside down ? The general public would not know the difference.

Jonathan

[KenSandyEggo]

"Maybe I should post more so you know me better. Should I use the funny faces here?"

Yes & yes. :p ;) :D :eek: :) :rolleyes: :cool: Plus you can be Ken number 3 and now we have a troika.

Maybe I'm just too sensitive a guy :rolleyes: , but P.T. Kay from Poland and Bowns from China have felt comfortable enough to post here and got hit with insult(s). P.T. Kay sounds very intelligent to me (the antithesis of the "dumb polak") and I doubt that the farmer who built his plane from a fuel tank or Bowns is looking to steal any of our ideas and go into mass production and screw us. Seems the farmer is superb at coming up with his own clever ideas. I just don't think it's nice to stereotype a whole nation of people and label them with a tag of "dumb" or "crooked." If Bowns or P.T. Kay got upset enough to stop posting here, it would have been a tremendous loss for all of us. P.T. has consistently provided great input on this Forum and Bowns has opened our eyes to a whole new segment of the home-built mileau. Sermon's over.

[rgraffeo]

Paul,
I forgot about a gyroglider that I saw at one of our Chapter meets in 2003, until I saw your pictures.
This one had the wood rotor blades.

[GyroRon]

I wonder how many people over there it would take to change the landing light? :)

[PTKay]

Rudy,

thanks for the pic.

Yes, it seems they tried to build a gyroplane out of a gyroglider.

Ken J. Thanks for the ecourgement.

I have my ups and downs on this forum, sometimes just lurking ;)
but mostly trying to fight stereotypes and prejudice.

BTW.: most of the new GE new engines are designed now
by the "dumb polaks" in Warsaw. They already employ 200 of young
engineers, and just recently started employing further 100.

I wiill not give up just because of some remarks...

[GyroRon]

My above comment was a joke, to egg on Ole Man Kenny J.... I like his comebacks! He put the smackdown on the other Ken! ;)

Hey Other Ken.... Don't you go lurking again either. :)