S x S Elite Modifications

[CLS447]

Improving the dual rudder pedals.

[CLS447]

The seats on their new mounting brackets. I spead the seats apart 4" and I am moving them back 3-4". I am also spreading the pedals to match then I will support the outer ends of the pedal assembly so that 2 people can really put alot of pressure on them. The support rods will also be used as handles to pull the machine around. I will also support the seats on the outboard sides.

I know ,I know..........Frontal drag!

[GyroRon]

I don't like the way those seats are mounted not one bit. Looks way too weak.

[CLS447]

Ron,you got me thinking. Imagine one of those seats snapping off at 1000' or on landing! Air Command sent 1/4" angle(very heavy) but when I made the new ones I used 3/16th. I realize that by spreading the seats I am imposing more stress on the angle, that is why I am going to use 1" support tubes on all 4 corners.I am going to also tie the backs of the seats together & to the mast, also adding to the support.

What inparticularly don't you like about it?

Maybe if I wrapped it in a big fiberglass pod it would look stronger!

Your butt is still pretty much bearing down on the main frame tube in the rear of the seat.

I can't believe that this machine was done & tested as a single place,how comes it's all ripped apart again! More bolts please!!!!

PS Shars water pump went in her Sub(EJ-22).Thought we overheated it getting it to my brother's garage(heated).Went to start it to pull it in the garage, and for the first time since we owned it it didn't start. I thought the motor was shot! It turns out that the water pump pulley bearing was so bad that it forced the timing belt to slice though the cover. When I removed the water pump the impeller was in little pieces. Hopefully a new pump, belt, center cover & some more greasy hands & she'll be like new. Man I love Subarus

[GyroRon]

You look so happy in there working on the gyro!

I just think the L angle looks too thin and turned the wrong way. My test would be to get a fat dude to stand in the seat and jump up and down and if it bends anything or you hear cracking etc... Come up with Plan B. Hate to fall off at 1000 feet in one of my whoompa whoompa turns!

[GyroRon]

Chris I will grace you with the honor of placing my 500th post in your seat thread. Feel special my friend.

[CLS447]

I was thinking about testing the strength of this setup by putting real world stress on the seats. The fat dude idea is excellent! Thanks for the mechanical advice!

Just wait till you see the finished product! I would bring it to ROC if we can get Tommy Milton to come. I am going to need the A/W cert. I hate to have to pay the tax & for the DAR to come to me. Larry B. Paid our guy $400 for inspection!

I think I will use a pump to fill the main tanks from my aux. tnks.

I hope that EA-81 has the power I need!

Here is the cyclic that needs total reconfiguring.

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[CLS447]

Got my replacement center supports from the machine shop today, man do they look great or what? Of course they do. I re-reverse engineered them myself. (I'll give myself a pat on the back.) If anyone is interested, I will have another set made for them. The price is only $1000.00 each. Ha! Ha!

These should offer better support for the foot rest tube then the stock castings that I hated so much.

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Here's where they bolt to the frame

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Here's the originals in place.

[ToddP]

Wow, those are way beefier. Did you gain much weight with those Chris? What was your concern with the original parts?

[CLS447]

Todd, for how much better they are, it will be worth the weight.

The originals are castings. The large hole is for the foot support tube. When you tighten the bolt through this hole it's supposed to pinch down,but the casting broke. #2 The 1/4" bolt holes in the front did not line up with the frame holes. When forced to line up, the pedal rods bound up. Really no way to redrill them. The second set AC sent had the same situation, time to improve! There are 4 other rod support blocks on the pedal assembly and they are beautifully machined,why not the center mounts.

I still have to drill the front mounting holes, but they will be in the right place. After that they will go back to the shop to trim off extra material.

Which ones would you want supporting your foot rest? I think that if you sat in the seat & pushed hard with your feet , you could snap the 1" tube off. Sometimes in my 447 I find myself pushing hard on my footrests & I tell myself to relax. But on that machine you only have one foot on each side.

Now extend that tube and put 2 feet on each side. One set from a nervous passenger. And you'll see why I want it stronger. I am also adding support tubes from the outbourd ends of that tube to the front keel at a 45 degree. Now you can push as hard as you like without stressing or breaking anything. They will also double as pull handles to help move the beast. It doesn't move as easily as my 447.

Being an open frame side x side , the only things keeping you in the seat are the seat belt, your feet on the pegs, your hand on the throttle, and your grip on the stick. Your legs don't even straddle the frame anymore. Don't step off the seat in flight!

[CLS447]

More current photos.

[CLS447]

Waiting for hardware order ( nuts & bolts ) from Spruce. Check out combo step / front seat support. It will be 1x1. Relocated instrument pod. Need to support seat backs yet.

Did an early hang test. 2 people no fuel. Wow 9 1/2 degrees forward tilt on mast. Gotta redo cheek plates & upper boom.

[CLS447]

Ended up with the 1/4 " seat brackets after all. I will not sacrifice strength for weight.

[Chuck Irby]

It's really looking good, Chris.


It's impossible to tell how sturdy something is from a picture. But if you have any doubt about the rigidity of the seat support angles, you could consider a light weight support from the ends back to the bottom of your mast.

[CLS447]

Chuck look closely, I did. 1" tubes support the rear angle to the mast cluster plate. Front tubes will go to the step/ support. The tubes just cleared the extended range fuel tanks( not shown ). Now I gotta work out dual throttles & dual cyclic. I see the light at the end of the tunnel, I hope it's not a train.

[Chuck Irby]

I see it now Chris. That will be rock solid. You're doing a great job with this major modification of yours. The 1/4" angle will be plenty heavy and add very little weight over the 3/16". I hope to see it some day.

[Caribean_gyro]

I am interest on knowing who makes the front wheel? I am in the process of building a 582 elite for a student and I have my concerns with the front wheel fork.
chuck P

[CLS447]

Chuck P,

That is Air Commands front wheel setup for 2X2 square front keel.

[CLS447]

After spreading the seat 4" , The cabin seems very spacious now. Lots of elbow room! Brmmm Brmmm! Looks like I just crawled out of bed!

[CLS447]

It is very windy and cold today, but I still made some progress. I went to the airport to meet one of the BFI's at his hangar to purchase the fuel line I need.

He has a roll of Norton Tygon fuel tubing. I used this same stuff to redo the fuel line on my 447. Does anybody else use this? I got sick of all the junk tubing that I had been replacing almost every year.

In my opinion, this is the best tubing I have ever used. I push it onto the fittings with a short piece of oversleeve tube, then use SS aviation clamps. I am very happy with the results. It stays flexible and lasts alot longer.

I always fuel up with a Mr. Funnel and my fuel tank valves have screens on them. I then run through a large plastic fuel filter with a paper element, which I replace yearly. I'm having a little trouble finding a large one this year. It's at least 1 1/2" around by 2" long with 1/4" in and out. I don't like the glass ones and I want plenty of flow. Does anybody have any other suggestions?

I had a hell of a time finding 1/4" brass barbed tees. Ended up paying 5.00 a piece. I just don't trust the nylon.

I will join my 2 extended range fuel tanks together with a tee in the middle and then with a dash mounted switch and a separate pump, refuel the main tanks with the 7 extra gallons when I can see that they are low enough to accept it.

What do you think????

[Chuck Irby]

I think you're doing a great job Chris. The fuel tanks, and pump sound good to me. Also, I am going to check out the fuel line you mentioned.

[GyroRon]

I use black standard automotive fuel line when I replace my lines and have not have a bit of trouble out of it. It has a braided liner that I feel helps the strength a lot over the stuff your using Chris. Although the line you used is real good stuff. The black line I use is cheap, Real cheap! and seems to last for several years instead on one or two years. Just my two cents.

[barnstorm2]

Hey Chris,

Your not planning on using those blades in the back left of the picture are you?? ;)

Did you get a chance to download those pictures of my project?

[CLS447]

Chuck,

Thanks for the compliments. I'm having a great time building her. I think I changed my mind on the fuel system. I'm going to use a 3-way valve and switch over to the aux tanks when my seat tanks get low and then I will fly by the clock on the 7 gallon aux tanks.

Tim,

I couldn't get on the site, but will check out your thread on this subject. I love pictures!

Speaking of pictures, we spent the afternoon in the garage (with the heat on) working on the gyro. My big order of bolts came from Spruce yesterday. So I spent my time mostly putting the right size bolts in all the holes with new nylocks, hoping this will be the last time. Here is a picture of the seat brackets with aux tank mount and seat belts.

[CLS447]

I mounted the aux tanks right under my butt, hoping full or empty makes no difference. Also I can access the caps.

[CLS447]

I had to relocate the instrument pod when I went to dual pedals. You can see how I had to custom fit it.

[CLS447]

Here is how I mounted it the first time. I like the new angle it faces right up at me now.

[barnstorm2]

Chris,

Looks very well done!

Much of my machine will be new but it still has a lot of restoring to do before it is back to mint shape. Right now I would be more than happy with flying-shape!

I will look into putting the pictures on a web page to make them easier to get to.

[CLS447]

My new machine is a far cry from the machine I dreampt about years ago. The original SxS AC.

[CLS447]

My exhaust finally getting done!

[CLS447]

Instrument pod finally completely remounted with rear support plates!

[CLS447]

My new location for my Extended range fuel tanks. I actually got my fuel line all laid out. Should be a snap.

[CLS447]

I spent the whole day with Shar & the gyro! I wouldn't be able to do it without her!

[CLS447]

We spent all day in the gyro shop again and got a few things done. We're ready for our next trip to the machine shop, almost finished the fuel line, and got the rudder reconnected.

We then put our test cheek plates back on and moved them to the furthest forward position, that shifted the rotorhead 8" forward. Then Shar and I climbed aboard and hoisted ourselves up with the chain hoist. With no fuel, the mast was plumb. If fuel doesn't put me 2 1/2 degrees forward, we can shift the rotorhead in 1/2" increments. When we have our cheek plates made I can easily raise the rotorhead another inch. Any thoughts??

Here is a pic of the plates.

[CLS447]

We were checking out our decal layout. What do you think? Is there anyone else on this forum right now with sore finger tips from wrenching nylocks all day or for that matter is there anybody reading my posts at all?

[CLS447]

I gott to say, in this SxS you don't even rub elbows. We both agreed that it is very comfortable to sit in.

[Dean_Dolph]

Read your posts!? Of course not! Actually you have left us all speechless or whatever the keyboard term is for being unable to comment.

Hang in there; someone is bound to comment sooner or later! ;D

[GyroRon]

You want comments.... Okay here is one, I don't like the stickers on the tail. It is only my opinion but putting a Harley sticker on the tail of the gyro is like putting a Aircommand sticker on the gas tank of your bike. Just not the place to do that kind of thing! :o

Remember you asked for comments! ;)

[GyroRon]

To be honest I liked it best plain with no stickers.

And I can't wait for you to take me for a ride in it at ROC this fall, you coming?

[CLS447]

Ron, today I scraped the Harley stickers off all of my cars & put an AC sticker on my bike. I think I will go with a tweety bird on my gyro. I twat I twaw a puddy tat!

For some reason this makes more sense.

[GyroRon]

Dude I didn't like that either. It was painted on and the tail was going to need to be re painted if I took it off so I left it alone. If I had fell in love with that machine and kept it I would have scraped it off and repainted, but now it has a new home and the new owner I am sure could care less what it looks like.

Look if you are going with the whole Harley theme then why not try to add some leather saddle bags for taking along some light luggage? Add chrome drag pipes - no wait you already got those... So then you could paint some flames on the pod and have the frame chromed and the list goes on...:D

Hey in all seriousness, the saddlebag idea sounds like a good one, what do ya think?

[Udi]

Your gyro looks great, Chris. I have a few questions. How are you connecting the extended fuel tanks to the seat tanks? Are you connecting the two seat tanks in parallel? Where are you connecting the seat belt? Are you using shoulder harnesses?

Udi-

[StanFoster]

Chris: Nice looking machine you are putting together.

[GeorgeHedinger]

Chris, your machine is looking great!
But I have to agree with everyone else, the
Harley stickers don't cut it.
Good luck! Looks like it'll be flying soon!

[CLS447]

Stan & everyone,

Thanks for the interest and compliments. No matter what anyone thinks we are probably going with the Harley decals also we are going to match the flames and they will run down the leading edge of the tall tail. That's our decision. As for chrome, Ron, I would like to have the front fork chromed.

I like the saddlebag idea in the respect of carrying some personal items, maybe some kind of fiberglass luggage pod. Who's got one?

Udi, if you look at my pictures closer you will see the seat belt is attached to the rear angle in the center of the seat. This works great when someone is sitting in the seat, but when the seat is empty and I pull the seatbelt up tight it puts the buckle on the corner edge of the seat. I'm not crazy about that location and very concerned about having the empty seat belt secured when flying solo. Does anybody have any good ideas on this subject?

I'm not using shoulder harnesses, my opinion is that they are a pain in the butt in more ways than one. Also, are they really going to save my life?

If you look at my pictures closer, you will see the flat pieces of aluminum spanning from front to rear angles to which I have attached the fuel tanks. This worked out well for me and the original steel mounts would have put the fuel caps in a bad location.

[CLS447]

Udi,
I reread your question. You meant the fuel line right?

Two seat tanks are connected together with a tee in the middle, which then goes to my selector valve. The sight gauges are also connected together to help maintain equal balance in the two tanks. I am hoping for even burn.

The aux tanks are also connected together with a tee in the middle. Then, they go to the other inlet of my selector valve. When the seat tanks burn down to a safe level I will then switch to aux tanks and time my burn. This will leave a nice reserve in the seat tanks. I expect we will have stopped for a break and refuel by this time. We will not be able to see the fuel level in the aux tanks.

[GyroRon]

Use some fiberglass hardbags off a Road King. Mount them on either side of the seats. that would be cool

[CLS447]

Ron,
I'm sure that they are too heavy and way too expensive!

Today, we are picking up a friend who has just had his left leg amputated at the knee, due to a boating accident where a hot rod boat creamed him and his brother after dark.

He has always shown interest in my gyro, and has helped me a few times. I told him the story of Dana Bowman at Mentone. I bet Dana could outrun me with 2 prosthetic legs! My friend has a good outlook and I hope to take him flying with me someday.

The weather is really crappy for flying, but perfect for working on the gyro.

[ToddP]

Chris,

The project is looking great. I think you've got a winner there. I'm looking forward to seeing it one day. How long til she flies?

[Udi]

Chris,

When I bought my new/old Air Command, the aux tanks were connected to a selector valve (right/left/off). The selector valve fed an electrical fuel pump, which delivered the fuel to the main seat tank. Some of the fuel lines were disconnected when I got the machine, so I don't know where in the seat tank the pump was pumping to. I would probably connect it to the seat level tube, unless someone has a better idea for me.

With his arrangement you don't have to guess how much fuel is left in the aux tanks. You just start the pump when your seat tank is low on fuel, and stop it when the level in the seat is not rising any longer.

Udi-

[StanFoster]

Chris: Are you bringing that beauty to Mentone? I know you mentioned you were going...I will be there three days and will look forward to meeting you.

Stan

[CLS447]

Stan, I'm sorry to say I won't be bringin her to mentone. We're gonna do Cedar Point on that trip(I love rollercoasters). And with my brother waiting on his Helicycle, we might be going to Homer Bell's ranch. I don't think I can afford to be on the road that long so I'm trying to condense it! Having my new bird along would be a major distraction, to say the least.

Todd, it wont be long now... I got the exhaust finished, installed new longer axels with threads long enough to accept castles. Man are those heavy suckers but I feel safer than the nylocks.... I'm redoing the upper tail boom because of relocating the rotorhead, but can't finish that until the new cheekplates are made. Still working on my custom dual throttles... today we will hang test solo, 2 up, 5 gallons, then 10 gallons, then 17 gals, and try to pick the best rotorhead position.

Today I reopened the crate that contains my Sportrotor hub bar... That thing is a massive piece of artwork! You gotta see it to believe it. I can't wait to not hear my exhaust.

I guess that my dry weight with blades might be between 650 & 700 lbs. Now add 2 people & 17 gallons of Sheetz premium. My gross could be as high as 1200 lbs! I hope she climbs at least as well as my 447. I will test performance with 2 bags of cement sitting next to me. If it doesn't perform I will get a hopped up EJ-22 & switch the prop and redrive over!

So many exciting days ahead!!!

[Caribean_gyro]

I'm not using shoulder harnesses, my opinion is that they are a pain in the butt in more ways than one. Also, are they really going to save my life?

I strongly recomend shoulder harness I know they are a pain but If you ever landed on the top of a tree (I wish this never happen) hanging on the blet is not nice. Also if you are flying in rought mountain weather it helps keep your Bud in the seat,

This is my 2 cent suggestion.

Chuk P.

PS take a pic of the hub will like to see what Sportcopter is saying about vibbration reduction

[CLS447]

Chuck , I got the hub out & took some pics for you. It almost makes the rest of the machine seem flimsy.

[CLS447]

A closeup of hub.

[CLS447]

Finished exhaust.

[CLS447]

Mounted exhaust. I hope it doesn't decrease my cooling, I'm already running 180 degrees with no stat. If it blocks airflow or heats the radiator, I see a lightweight aluminum radiator in the near future. JEGS has them starting at about $250. But then I would lay it down on it's back on the sloping support tubes and get one with the inlet and outlet in the best position for shorter , more direct hose connections.

Then if it cools too well, I will have to get some kind of inline stat housing. Anyone know where I can get a nice one? Then I want to get those flexible Stainless Steel radiator hoses. Catfish Oxnam had them on his machine & he said he liked them. Anyone else have any luck with these?

Please refraine from smoking near the aircraft , please.

[CLS447]

We figured out how we are gonna mount the radios & intercom. A RAM mount for each handheld on either side of the pod. A little work with some aluminum angle & I will have a drop in holder for the intercom box, right between the seats. Helmet cords reach very nicely & its right at your fingertips.Easy routing of patch cords and power cord & space for the Walkman.

[CLS447]

I did several hang tests today. I flipped the test cheek plates around & tried the furthest back position for the Head. Solo,no fuel, the mast was plumb. Shar & me in it.. 4 degrees forward. Both of us with 5 gals... no change. Both of us with 10gals... same. I still want to fill the Aux. tanks,7gals more, & try it, but I can't afford the gasoline!!!

We're wondering if we should stick with that or take a shot at having the machine shop move the rotorhead back maybe another 1" . Then I might end up with something like 2 degrees front... solo & 6 degrees front... 2 up. Does anyone know which way would be the safest, nose heavy or tail heavy? I think I like it right where it's at.

If I decide tommorow I can probably have my new cheekplates done before the end of the week.

[CLS447]

With 10gals of gas & no blades on it , she almost wants to sit up on her nosewheel by herself. I think the blades will make her sit on her tail though. But its nice that it doesn't want to kick back when you hop off.

One concern I do have is the weight that we put down on the nosewheel when we are both in it. The front suspension is compressed about halfway. The chromoly is very strong, but hit a pothole while taxxing fast & I worry that it could fold back! Remember last year at Mentone? My SC blades make the nosewheel light vey quickly with a good prerotation, but taxi around on unknown turf & my precious blades might not like what could happen!

Which makes me rely on everyones experience..... especially Dominator & Air Command Tandem elite owners..... How loaded is your front wheel & have you ever had trouble with this situation?

I can only imagine that the tandem has just as much or even more weight on the nosewheel than mine, because of the front seat getting more leverage out of the pivot point(axle). So Maxie or Dan Leslie, if you read this, I could really use your input. Don't make me call you guys. I hope you all had fun at Bensen Days!!

Heres my test plates . I ended up with plates and head moved as far back as they could go without flipping plates around again.

[CLS447]

Here are my custom made axles & tube spacers next to the originals, Hegar only supplies 8" axles & wouldn't really get me longer ones so I had these made. Not Air Commands fault really.

Now both axle cluster plate bolts will pass through the axle & the thread is longer for the castle nuts. I won't have to give these much thought when they are done.

How well do the tubeless wheels hold up. A guy I know put tubes in his because he was getting alot of flats. Mine are holding air so far.

I'll tell you all about the other stuff later ,like my Dual throttle linkage, & the breather seperator bottle for my redrive, & the changes to my upper tail boom, etc.....etc....etc.. GOOD NIGHT !!!

[Caribean_gyro]

thanks for the pics they look great I will try to zomm in to check more the teeter conection.

You machine is coming great. Have you think on mounting a coil radio antenna. The rubber antenna is great byt it don give you range and punch. I mounted my frist one in my KB2 and I could talk with a guy 30 miles from my airport. WEll he as at 3,000 and I was at 1000 feet high. But still alot for 1 watt. I you eventually by one dont buy the whip type. They are tuned to mid frequency and they have too much gain loss.

You might see mine underneath of the Pod. It is bend 45' , This is use GA aircraft bellys.

Again congrat. great work. Just excited to see it in the air
ChuckP

[StanFoster]

Chris: Awesome project. Lots of care going into it for sure. Keep up the good work and it will be interesting seeing it progress to its first and many flights. :)

Stan

[LARRYEBOYER]

Hey Chris! Looking good. Now the Butch cop up at Kutztown will like you again!She don't like the noise. (or men)

[CLS447]

One concern I do have is the weight that we put down on the nosewheel when we are both in it. The front suspension is compressed about halfway. The chromoly is very strong, but hit a pothole while taxxing fast & I worry that it could fold back! Remember last year at Mentone? My SC blades make the nosewheel light vey quickly with a good prerotation, but taxi around on unknown turf & my precious blades might not like what could happen!

Which makes me rely on everyones experience..... especially Dominator & Air Command Tandem elite owners..... How loaded is your front wheel & have you ever had trouble with this situation?

I can only imagine that the tandem has just as much or even more weight on the nosewheel than mine, because of the front seat getting more leverage out of the pivot point(axle). So Maxie or Dan Leslie, if you read this, I could really use your input. Don't make me call you guys. I hope you all had fun at Bensen Days!!

[CLS447]

Chuck, I will consider the antenae thing. Thanks for the suggestion.

The pic that Greg S. posted Of Maxie tells me about the amount of spring compression. Thanks for the pic Greg! Does Maxie ever fly off of rough turf?

Talked to John at Air Command today.... Says that 0-4degrees is what I want. I got 0 solo & 4 two up. Time to get the cheekplates made!

We will be going with some friends, in a limo bus, to see Aerosmith in Philadelphia Weds night. I'll be back after the hangover is gone. Sat marks the first day of trout season here in Pa. Thats just another party also. I hate when fun delays fun!!!

[barnstorm2]

Chris,

Mine is almost ready for the AW check. Any idea if you will be able to bring yours to Mentone?

[CLS447]

Tim, I love that machine ! You know what? I'm starting to like the looks of that pod!!! Uh-oh , I'm starting to get old... What next? A windshield on my Harley?!? We're watching your progress.

I'm working on the finishing touches now. Here's a pic from the other day with it tied down. 13 degrees of pitch, 68" Warp, 5120 rpm's at full throttle. What are you getting?

Who wants a ride?

[CLS447]

oops can't post pic from quick reply.

BTW Todd , I love what you have done with this forum. Donations,shirt purchaces & new members to follow as soon as possible!!!!!!

[CLS447]

One more.

Oh Tim O. , My 447 is showing close to 7000 rpm's this year. Next time up I will add more pitch to my Ivo prop. With the age & time on that engine the last thing I want to be doing is over revving. I don't know why the change though. Maybe she's finally breaking in. LOL Did you try the 14 degree pitch blocks yet? Maybe we're both in for a pleasant surprise ( better cruise)!?!

[StanFoster]

Chris: Nice job on that gyro....should be a fun and safe flying machine for you.


Stan

[CLS447]

Good morning Stan, thanks buddy. I just hope she's got the "push" I need.

BTW, You're doing one heck of job tearing up the sky!!!! Want do you think of that Tim O. in his little 447. He's doing a great job too!! He must just have that camera strapped to his head somehow!

[barnstorm2]

Chris,

Weekend before last Gary and I put 12deg into the prop and she shot up to 5000 rpm in a flash with 70% more throttle to go.

I had hoped to be setting her to say 14 and trying gain this weekend but Gary has discovered a WOBBLE IN MY PROP! :mad: :mad: :mad:

The prop-plate I was given from my 'redrive manufactuerer' was very poorly machined and I am hopeing that if I have this remade the problem will be solved. If no...

It is time to go shopping for a new EJ-22 Redrive :eek: , and I only have a couple of weeks to inspection time!!!! :eek:

To make matters worse I need to find a redrive that does not change my thrustline. :( I need to keep it as close to CLT as possible of course.

Can anyone make any recommendations???? :confused:


447---

I was hoping to spend some time this weekend and change the pitch blocks and try out the 447. However, now with the problems facing my 2-places redrive I will have to spend 6 hours driving round trip to work on it. The girlfriend may not 'allow' me to spend both days of the weekend on gyros esp. since we might get good weather and everyone has cabin feavor around here. Changing the pitch blocks is easy and quick but testing is not. The airport I am hangered out of is VERY busy and it is hard to find a time to do things like crow-hops to test mechincal changes :(

The camera ( sony cybershot ) is on a strap around my neck and then placed in the right front outer pocket of my army jacket. I would LOVE to have a helmet cam.


Here is a picture Sue sent of me pitching my prop ( under supervision )

[CLS447]

Looking for new member... Tugman.. Welcome

[CLS447]

Just thought I'd bring up some of my old work for any new members that might be interested.

[SHARKEYBROS]

chris would you mind taking a pic.of your front nose wheel i am trying to make one for my michine. thanks all three sides if you dont mind. your michine looks great.

[CLS447]

Hey thanks alot !

I just pulled up the old thread from archives on my nosewheel build.

Check it out. If you need more, just let me know.

[CLS447]

More custom work !