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All_In
06-11-2012, 09:50 AM
Chris and I flew over from San Diego it was a calm and clear flight nothing unexpected except while on flight following LA Center reported that there was an aircraft at 9,500 feet our same altitude heading directly at us.

Neither pilot saw the other. So the LA Center requested the other aircraft to ascend to 10,000 feet to avoid the collision. Chris and I were really looking and finally I saw the traffic at my 10 o’clock high position.

Now here is the reality.
I do not believe I would have seen the aircraft in time to avoid a collision as I may not have been looking in that direction for the short period of time I saw our traffic.
So please use flight following. This is not the first time It may have saved our lives.

The flight home I was solo as Chris flew back to San Fran from Salt Lake City by airlines.
There was a 30 knot cross wind on the day of my return. As I was taxiing out my GPS could only get one satellite so I taxi back to park in front of a FBO’s hanger to sort it out.

As I was sitting there with the door open for the breeze to cool me off the FBO owner came out and warned me that the winds were at 30 knots and he would not take off in an archer.

I thanked him and explained that I know the book says a 25 know demonstrated cross wind is the max, but with my weight and a carrier type take-off I have demonstrated a 35+ cross wind takeoff although I did find myself ounce on a 40 knot wind out of rudder pedaled but had anticipated I would not be able to hold center line and drift off to the left however there is only flat open field on that side so no problem anyway.

The GPS did not work so I got my VOR frequency and course notes out of my bag and set up the vectors to fly through the class B airspace the way I have for most of my life.

Pulled out onto the runway set the brake and max power with a little leaning and let it spool up for quite a while.

Then released the brake and off I went.

Held her down until 70 knots and rotated with my low weight she popped off the ground in only a few seconds very short takeoff perhaps the shortest in this particular aircraft.

It was a non event I was able to hold center line with no drift into the open field on my right.

At about 4000 feet the GPS came to life so I put the VOR freq guide of the right seat as I would be using the VOR for cross referencing where I was on the chart in case the GPS failed I would have it marked on the paper chart as if still flying on VOR and could easily switch navigation to paper charts as in this turbulents I would be diving down or up while looking at the charts or maybe flip over it was so rough when you took your hand off the yoke.

For the first 400 miles I had one of the best flights in a very long time with moderate and extreme turbulents. I reduced power and practiced holding my assign altitude which when you are bouncing up and down 200+ feet at a time is not pretty but I held it requiring 100% attention.

What I missed most was a passenger to hand me the charts etc. Every time I glance down at the charts to mark it and back up I’d find the aircraft on it side or in some attitude I did not intend. It was fun!!!!!!!

Flight following was thankful for the pilot report as few folks were flying. I had 40 knot headwinds down low with 30 knot headwind at 10,500 so up I went.

It was a long slow flight but I enjoyed testing my skills.

I’ve been in turbulents so many time I found I enjoyed it with no fear at all just like riding off road over sand dunes with the jumps, no big deal.

ROTR was an adventure in flying and meeting new and old friends. I learned a great deal from all of you.

I love to learn so thank you everyone for sharing your experience with me.

Chris Vance and I stayed at the same hotels while there and I learned so much from then wish it could have lasted a week or more.

BEN S
06-11-2012, 10:10 AM
Well John,
Reading about your flight reminds me of another flight that was somewhat bumpy!
I was less impressed with flight following on that particular day!
But you sure can fly the heck out of a bad day!
I just got 1 hour of time towards my complex last week in some of the worst weather Ive ever seen, the instructor didn't seem to think it was that bad, but being from Yuma, Rain, Low ceilings, possible hail and finally a tower warning about wind shear over the numbers turned my birthday flight into something quite memorable.
Anyway, you should be fine just as long as you don't become a rock and roll star!
Ben S

StanFoster
06-11-2012, 10:10 AM
John- Love your flying stories also! Glad you and everyone had a good time at ROTR. Stan

Gyro Junky
06-11-2012, 11:02 AM
Enjoyed the face time at ROTE. Great presentations and your a hell of a great guy. Thanks for all.

ckurz7000
06-11-2012, 11:09 AM
Glad you made it home OK. It was so much fun to be with you and a pleasure to get to know so many other nice folk and gyro enthusiasts.

Hope I can make it next time, too.

--Chris.

NoWingsAttached
06-11-2012, 01:22 PM
Please post a pic of the aircraft for us. Sounds like you had quite a trip!

Russ Hobbs
06-11-2012, 08:57 PM
Chris thank you for coming to ROTR, it was a pleasure meeting you. Your presentation was a kick:-)
Russ

kolibri282
06-12-2012, 08:42 AM
Thanks for sharing this very instructive account of your flight, John, great read!
Cheers,

Juergen

All_In
06-12-2012, 11:46 AM
Well John,
Reading about your flight reminds me of another flight that was somewhat bumpy!
I was less impressed with flight following on that particular day!
But you sure can fly the heck out of a bad day!
I just got 1 hour of time towards my complex last week in some of the worst weather Ive ever seen, the instructor didn't seem to think it was that bad, but being from Yuma, Rain, Low ceilings, possible hail and finally a tower warning about wind shear over the numbers turned my birthday flight into something quite memorable.
Anyway, you should be fine just as long as you don't become a rock and roll star!
Ben S
Ya buddy the landings were all fun that day and a test of skills with a carburetor float sunk too boot.

Funny thing is I seem to always nail bad weather landing then float or whatever when it is as clam as can be. Figure that one out?

All_In
06-12-2012, 11:48 AM
John- Love your flying stories also! Glad you and everyone had a good time at ROTR. Stan
Thank buddy, I know it boring FW now that I've flown rotorcraft but I had so much fun I had to share it. Thanks for sharing it with me it really was fun.

All_In
06-12-2012, 11:50 AM
Enjoyed the face time at ROTE. Great presentations and your a hell of a great guy. Thanks for all.
Steve you and Rose are a delight and add so much to the party!!!!
I had a fantastic time and cannot wait until next year are you coming to El Mirage in September?

All_In
06-12-2012, 12:03 PM
Please post a pic of the aircraft for us. Sounds like you had quite a trip!
Hi Greg!!

We call her patches for now. We replaced all the push pull cables, oil lines (I found a crack in the line to the pressure gauge on 1st prefilght), and fuel lines.
She is airworthy but has been left out in the sun.

We were going to paint her before ROTR but I seen painting time turn into Stan's "two weeks" so can paint her now.
We also have a new GPS we are mounting in the panel, getting a new intercom as ours is noisy and turning her into an IFR certified aircraft.

I think I've grow-up enough now not to have I-got-to-get-there-itis!

All_In
06-12-2012, 12:05 PM
Chris thank you for coming to ROTR, it was a pleasure meeting you. Your presentation was a kick:-)
Russ
Hi Buddy!!!

I wish we lived closer it was fun!

All_In
06-12-2012, 12:08 PM
Glad you made it home OK. It was so much fun to be with you and a pleasure to get to know so many other nice folk and gyro enthusiasts.

Hope I can make it next time, too.

--Chris.
Hi Buddy!!
Thank you so much for everything I learned it was very helpful.
You would have had fun on the way home...:angel:

I had a great time with you as always.

If you don't come here I'm going to take you up on your offer for me to visit you. although not with the cruise ship full of forum friends I suggested come with me.

All_In
06-12-2012, 12:10 PM
Thanks for sharing this very instructive account of your flight, John, great read!
Cheers,

Juergen
Thank you Jergen, I know it FW stuff but I had so much fun I wanted to share it with my friends here. No one else cares... just another flying story.

Steve McGowan
06-12-2012, 05:54 PM
Was that at BringHam City airport?? .I was there a year or so ago workin with GBA the Hawk 4.

BEAUTIFUL PLace..

MichaelBurton
06-12-2012, 07:00 PM
As Brigham would say this is the right place.

PW_Plack
06-12-2012, 11:47 PM
Was that at BringHam City airport...BEAUTIFUL PLace..

Steve, that'd be the one. You should see if you can't talk GBA into needing your services during ROTR next year!