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Vance
04-16-2012, 10:41 PM
Saturday was pretty windy because a big storm had just past through with thunderstorms and hail so I didn' fly and did worked on The Predator instead.

According to all the weather I could find Sunday was going to be a lovely day to fly.

I checked with Lockheed Martin and they had AIRMET Tango for moderate turbulence below 14,000 feet for most of Sothern California. They had two PIREPS for severe turbulence near Santa Barbara., one at 4,500 feet, just where we fly over the San Marcos Pass. There was a little more wind than I expected based on Saturdays weather predictions. Camarillo for lunch seemed reasonable.

Because I had done some work on the Predator on Saturday the preflight took more than an hour and it was almost noon when I heard the magic words; “Runway 30 clear for takeoff.

I was solo so I climbed up a little higher, ran her up to 75kts and headed for gas at Santa Ynez over the patch work of agriculture.

I was filling up when my friend pulled up with her Cub, N5EX and we exchanged some pleasantries.

I felt in a hurry to get to Camarillo before I was too hungry so I was trying to stay focused when four friends of mine showed up and invited me to lunch. So much for my Camarillo plans.

They are Tricycle pilots I spent some time trying to explain that a gyroplane was not controlled by weight shift. We had two MEs, a PHD and an MD. I suspect that at least one is not convinced and still feels The Predator is weight shift like their tricycles.

We caught a cab into town and after a delightful lunch and lots of good restaurant flying. We called the cab and headed back to IZA and started checking the weather in the pilots lounge.

Several airports were over my gust limit but my tricycle friends seemed undaunted. One is based out of Santa Paula so he still had a ways to go.

I decided to explore the newly green hills with splashes of yellow from the blooming mustard and make my way back toward SMX.

I love trying to understand the winds as they caress the hills and I love the lush green after a good rain.

It did not take long to find some mustard and some lift along the ridgeline.

The rugged hills turned to green rolling hills and we had to turn right before we got to Vandenberg’s restricted airspace.

I checked SMX ATIS and the winds had picked up to 295 degrees at 16kts gusting to 27kts so I decided to do some stop and goes and experiment with the gusts to see if I could raise my 10 kt gust spread limit.

I was to report the Orcutt Y. I had a Sikorsky at my 3 o’clock and a half mile and I had a very hard time finding him so I dropped down to 800 feet along California highway 1 and was to report the Orcutt Y for a left base entry for runway 30. He had around 5kts on us and had to cross our flight path to land on taxiway Hotel.

I asked for left closed traffic and worked the pattern for close to an hour. I pretty much had the field to myself as the winds picked up. I feel I learned a lot in my 15 landings.

Some of the six wind socks I watch were showing almost a direct cross when there was a gust even though the steady wind was only 15 degrees off straight down the runway. I was reminded on at least half the landings why I have a 10kt gust spread limit.

I love to learn and I love to fly.

Thank you, Vance

GyrOZprey
04-17-2012, 03:39 AM
As always a very detailed & descriptive accounting of your latest joyful gyro-adventure!
After all the recent training in windy conditions I have new appreciation for the wind speed,direction details and gust spread that you tell us about.
I love the way you keep challenging yourself to learn & hone your skills with every flight and can relate your experience so succinctly to bring us along the learning trail with you.
Thank-you Vance - you are a great inspiration, role model and source of much "food-for-thought"!

Vance
04-17-2012, 07:34 AM
As always a very detailed & descriptive accounting of your latest joyful gyro-adventure!
After all the recent training in windy conditions I have new appreciation for the wind speed,direction details and gust spread that you tell us about.
I love the way you keep challenging yourself to learn & hone your skills with every flight and can relate your experience so succinctly to bring us along the learning trail with you.
Thank-you Vance - you are a great inspiration, role model and source of much "food-for-thought"!

Thank you for the kind words Chris.

I worry about being a bad influence.

Please build up your understanding of wind slowly.

Early in my gyroplane flying experience I would encounter an unexpected gust or the ending of a gust that came from a different direction while landing and find that I did not have the tools to mitigate the challenge.

Because I fly cross country, often through several weather systems I need to learn more about winds.

I learned to fly a Helicopter in Augusta, Kansas. Based on that experience understanding winds is probably important for you too.

In my opinion any aerodynamic force goes up by the square of the increase in the speed so in other words a 10 kt gust causes four times as much divergence as a 5 kt gust.

A steady wind is not so challenging and as a steady wind picks up it is possible to land across the runway to manage the crosswind component.

A gust, particularly from a different direction than the steady wind in my opinion is much more challenging and may require a faster response to avoid an inelegant landing.

As I try to imagine how your landing gear works it may be that keeping the travel short would work best in gusts. Please ask Larry.

Thank you, Vance

BEN S
04-17-2012, 08:25 AM
"I was filling up when my friend pulled up with her Cub, N5EX and we exchanged some pleasantries."

Vance, what kind of "pleasantries" could you possibly exchange with a young lass whose plane tail number clearly denotes that she is celibate? :)
(Can't believe I got this one first! you guys are slipping!!!)

Vance
04-17-2012, 08:52 AM
Hello Ben,

I am not clear on your meaning.

I don’t spark with anyone but Ed because I am happily married.

My friend Teri was a CFI before you or I became sentient.

That is not her in the picture.

She is a luminary in the aviation community and always goes out of her way to say hello to me.

I am proud to know her.

She fought at some length with the FAA and eventually prevailed to keep that N number.

Thank you, Vance

BEN S
04-17-2012, 11:06 AM
Vance my friend,
You almost never seem to "get" my jokes....that's OK I'll keep trying!
I knew you would never mess around on someone like Ed, have you SEEN that crazy look in her eye on her signature picture? Scary!:)
Ben S

SgurlEd
04-17-2012, 11:21 AM
Vance my friend,
You almost never seem to "get" my jokes....that's OK I'll keep trying!
I knew you would never mess around on someone like Ed, have you SEEN that crazy look in her eye on her signature picture? Scary!:)
Ben S

Don't worry I spotted it Ben...but SHUCKS...me bein' a Lady in all! Well how could I....LOL and Damn Skippy He Better watch out for that CRAZY Look he don't want it turned on him Bahahhabahahahh...Muhhahahaha <= BTW That's my Dr. E~VIL laugh it goes with the crazy look! Hehehe!!

Just Call me Sgurl~Evil♥♥ ☺☺☺☻☻☻

Vance
04-17-2012, 12:38 PM
Vance my friend,
You almost never seem to "get" my jokes....that's OK I'll keep trying!
I knew you would never mess around on someone like Ed, have you SEEN that crazy look in her eye on her signature picture? Scary!:)
Ben S

I appreciate your friendship.

I will keep looking for the humor.

What was the joke?

Why was it funny?

Ed is beautiful in my eyes, I feel I am missing the point again.

Thank you, Vance

Scary Gary
04-17-2012, 12:54 PM
Ed scares me, and I'm Scary.

BEN S
04-17-2012, 12:54 PM
Her planes N number isn't a random jumble of letters and numbers.
It's more like a rebus or anagram.
Your buddy
Ben S

Vance
04-17-2012, 08:29 PM
Her planes N number isn't a random jumble of letters and numbers.
It's more like a rebus or anagram.
Your buddy
Ben S

Hello Ben,

That is why I took the picture and why Teri got in a protracted battle with the FAA over the N number.

It appears you missed my puerile humor Ben.

Thank you, Vance

Passin' Thru
04-17-2012, 08:54 PM
Huumm, I guess I'm the dummy!

I thought it was a take-off on "insects", you know, gnats, mosquitos, and creepy - crawley things?:noidea:

BEN S
04-17-2012, 08:55 PM
I concede, your ability to subtly amuse by obfuscating marks you as a true sesquipedalian!
Ben S

Vance
04-17-2012, 09:12 PM
Not to worry Pete,

This swiftly exceeded my capacity.

Ben my friend,

None of the words I used was as long as sesquipedalian so what does that make you?

I concede your superior command of the language.

I was trying to emulate your humor.

Stan has been helping me with this project.

Thank you, Vance

BEN S
04-17-2012, 09:40 PM
handy with a thesaurus?

Arnie Madsen
04-18-2012, 12:58 AM
I was filling up when my friend pulled up with her Cub, N5EX and we exchanged some pleasantries.
Thank you, Vance

That is a unique tail number .... .... you might want to add it to this thread ....
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24195

StanFoster
04-18-2012, 01:47 AM
Vance- Somedays I feel like I know nothing about vocabularly--- other days I know twice as much. Somewhere in that general vascectomy is where I average out. Stan

Scary Gary
04-18-2012, 05:13 AM
I knew BEN had look that word up , he was in the Navy .
Am I being loquacious again ?

Scary Gary
04-18-2012, 05:16 AM
Vance- Somedays I feel like I know nothing about vocabularly--- other days I know twice as much. Somewhere in that general vascectomy is where I average out. Stan

I had a vasectomy .
Very uncomfortable .

All_In
04-18-2012, 06:11 AM
Hi Vance and Ed
Thank you for another grand adventure!!!
I really do enjoy tagging alone with you guys!

Vance
04-18-2012, 01:33 PM
handy with a thesaurus?

I laughed when I saw that Ben.

Your perseverance prevailed over my ingenuousness.

Congratulation!

Vance

Vance
04-18-2012, 01:40 PM
Vance- Somedays I feel like I know nothing about vocabularly--- other days I know twice as much. Somewhere in that general vascectomy is where I average out. Stan

Hello Stan,

Your malapropos went over my head.

Thank you, Vance

Vance
04-18-2012, 01:42 PM
I knew BEN had look that word up , he was in the Navy .
Am I being loquacious again ?




No Gary,

I feel you would need to have a higher word count to be considered loquacious.

Thank you, Vance

Vance
04-18-2012, 01:49 PM
Hi Vance and Ed
Thank you for another grand adventure!!!
I really do enjoy tagging alone with you guys!

I love visiting with friends.

I saw two of them in their tricycles over Shell Beach on Monday on my way to lunch at SBA.

The back seat of the Predator is still waiting for you John.

Gusts kept me on the ground Tuesday and today.

The Sunday practice confirmed the validity my gust limits.

Thank you, Vance