Scumbag POS...

[Earthboundmisft]

crackhead spearchucker stole hotel furniture, got pulled over,
shot the deputy 8 times in the face, and chest.
The deputy, a 30 veteran, female, died on the spot.
All this after a 10 mile chase along a busy 2 lane road.
After the shooting, the animal fled, finally crashing 1/2 mile
from my house. He and the white female turd with him had
lengthy rap sheets. He had multiple warrants on him.
Unfortunately, they were apprehended without injury.
Time for swift justice. I'm tired of this sh!t.

[JRB549]

Im with ya bro, tired of it too.

[choppergabor]

As long as we have Johnnie Cochrans and Jose Baezs these dirtbags do walk unfortunately. We need a fundamental change in our legal system too. But then again..... we need to have a system that carries out the full sentence and they should base it on Sheriff Arpaio's system! What a shame...... it is sickening.....

[BUD ONEAL]

I agree,Its gonna get worse before it gets better

[choppergabor]

Yep true piece of Sh!t
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20120306/NEWS01/120306010/Two-suspects-charged-shooting-veteran-Brevard-deputy-Melbourne?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home&nclick_check=1

[Earthboundmisft]

As a kid I can remember my Dad getting so mad over the evening news.
He would say "We gotta make an example of them sons a bitches".
Even as young as I was, I understood why he was mad.
Nothing has changed.
"And Thats The Way It Is" (Walter Cronkite)...

[Steve McGowan]

Nothin can say how disturbing this is..

[Redbaron]

My 12guage rests 24 inches from my bed, such a sad world when you can't trust folks :sad:

[GyroRon]

Spearchucker huh........

[JRB549]

...dats be rite Mitza Ron.

[Lee Scatt]

I remember when the last cop killer was rained on by Polk county deputies.
The sheriff was asked by a newswoman why the perp was shot 73 times....."Because we ran out of ammo".
Should have happend here.

Correction, it was 68 rounds.

[BUD ONEAL]

I remember when the last cop killer was rained on by Polk county deputies.
The sheriff was asked by a newswoman why the perp was shot 73 times....."Because we ran out of ammo".
Should have happend here.




Amen to that Lee!!:laser:

[Scary Gary]

They had a 25 year old Deputy killed by a hit and run driver last night in Lake County Indiana . They hit 4 Deputys tottal with only 1 killed . Ant they are still at large .

[Scary Gary]

Spearchucker huh........

At least it wasn't a Coon .
Always getting in your garbage can's at night .

[MrGrey]

They had a 25 year old Deputy killed by a hit and run driver last night in Lake County Indiana . They hit 4 Deputys tottal with only 1 killed . Ant they are still at large .

This happened about 3 miles from my house... hope they catch the SOB.

[James]

I keep a Sig, a Judge, a 12 guage, and my Uzie within reach of my bed all the time. May be I am paranoid or something. Live in the county far off the road, have alarms and cameras also. If I was to see some one coming on my monitors, the audible alarm would be turned off, the door would be unlocked, and I would just sit and wait entry.

James Lee - TN

[choppergabor]

I keep a Sig, a Judge, a 12 guage, and my Uzie within reach of my bed all the time. May be I am paranoid or something. Live in the county far off the road, have alarms and cameras also. If I was to see some one coming on my monitors, the audible alarm would be turned off, the door would be unlocked, and I would just sit and wait entry.

James Lee - TN
LOL you have the same mentality my Rottweilers had! They would let you in...but not too fortunate trying to leave :) On the other hand it is a lot of cleanup after a headshot......I did promise my wife not to kill anymore so I would probably try to chase them away first....:sad:

[Scary Gary]

And that's what the tarp is for.

[aerobatic]

I remember when the last cop killer was rained on by Polk county deputies.
The sheriff was asked by a newswoman why the perp was shot 73 times....."Because we ran out of ammo".
Should have happend here.

OK guys I know I shouldn't bring this since there is a lot of guns lovers in this forum and I'm really on the opposite spectrum. But from my point of vue, if guns are not so natural in a culture, and if there is some restrictive laws about possessing them, may be those kind of horror stories wouldn't be so common...

73 times! my God!

Maher

[choppergabor]

OK guys I know I shouldn't bring this since there is a lot of guns lovers in this forum and I'm really on the opposite spectrum. But from my point of vue, if guns are not so natural in a culture, and if there is some restrictive laws about possessing them, may be those kind of horror stories wouldn't be so common...

73 times! my God!

Maher
WRONG!!! That was the mentality of Hitler when he stripped guns from law obeying citizens and forced them into fascism! You can NOT take the God given right of defending oneself and his or her family from anyone!!! I emphasize CAN NOT!!!! If you do bad things happen. Bad guys by definition don't care about your stupid restrictions and never will. The police response time is never as fast as one's trigger finger. Argue with that! 73 was not enough should have been 7300 bullets ripping that bastard into shreds. Ask the Europeans how they like not having guns and not being able to defend themselves. I know. I grew up there! They don't! Your precious system doesn't work...only bad guys have guns over there! And it is not gun lover but freedom lover!!!

[jcarleto]

But from my point of vue, if guns are not so natural in a culture, and if there is some restrictive laws about possessing them, may be those kind of horror stories wouldn't be so common...
Maybe the story would be different, but the plot might be the same.

Quebec has very tough gun laws and has for some time. As a result, only about 1/3 of murders there are gun-related. That means that the other 2/3 are managed by other methods. The statistical prevalence of murder per total population in any society doesn't change a great deal if you look at long-term trends. There are, of course, swings one way or the other in any population in the short term. Those who like to shout about progress typically bracket their data within periods that support their opinions.

[StanFoster]

Maher- The criminals just get stronger when the sheeple turn over their rights to keep and bear arms.

We have way too soft of a jail system. They need to be in stockades with food thrown over a fence to them. Let em fight for the food and housing. Maybe they will fight to stay out of jail hell and think before they act again.

Way too many on the government handouts....where they have it too easy....they wouldnt dare work for minimum wage when they can go steal it. TOUGH consequences....but it will never happen with all the limp wristed liberals we have infesting our govenment.


Stan

[Resasi]

With a son in Fla Law Enforcement this is what I do fear.

[JRB549]

C'on Stan say what ya mean, dont hold back.

Not sure who said it but it goes sorta like this:I lie to no one, no one will lie to me. I Disrespect no one, no one will disrepect me. I harm no one, no one will harm me.
I've staired down the barrel of a gun from a man who felt it gave him POWER to do as he wanted, after a good ole ass whipping he never pulled a gun on anyone again, havta have fingers to do that.

[AirScooter]

I think every household in America should be required to have one gun per house. Read about Switzerland. What I described is pretty much law there, and they have virtually no gun related crime. Go figure, when your neighbors are armed you don't attack them do you?

[thomasant]

Better to have one and not have to use it, than need to use one and not have it.

[scottessex]

God bless Kennesaw Ga!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-11df-b53e-00144feab49a.html#axzz1oWQlIPYv

Oh and if you are near Smyrna, stop by for some shopping, over 10,000 to choose from!
Yes you can get a shopping cart at the door. :)
http://www.adventureoutdoors.us/

http://www.snopes.com/crime/cops/judd.asp

[Thechap]

Let's see. I got a 40 Cal. Glock on the shelf in front of me, a 380 to my left, and two 38 revolvers to my right within reach. And thats only in one room! Needless to say I have made quite a few enemies in the last 27 years. Put many away from a long time, child molesters, burglars, ect. Been threatened many many times. You know what I tell the turds when they say they are coming to my house to pay me a visit? I say, "Please do, me, the wife and my children have something for you!" I always tell my victims to go to a local gun shop, talk to the owner and purchase a weapon for protection. Learn how to handle that weapon. It's better to be judged by six than carried by twelve.

[Heron]

Justice = off with his head!
Vengeance =all that you guys are talking about!
Anyone in favor of organs donation by death row scum?
Heron

[Scary Gary]

Oh great !
It's Heron .

[choppergabor]

Oh great !
It's Heron .
Exactly my thoughts.....I knew I had a reason to have him on ignore LOL :drum:
I'd love to see the reactions on the faces of these "anti freedom and anti let me be able to protect my family" if it happened to them that a 300 pounder line backer type broke into their home and was getting ready to ravage their woman or daughter and he couldn't do a thing because he is so steadfast against guns! They could probably talk them into not hurting them. After all I am sure they are perfectly reasonable nice people. We just have to understand them I guess..... I don't want them to protect me but don't take away my right to do so!!!!

[JRB549]

Right On Gabor, it all boils down to "Doing the right thing", if hinesight is 20/20 everyone would do the right thing, but to stand up for "Your Rights" have taken a back seat to protection with leaving it to the cop, only to say after the fact "what else could I have done", If only I'd known".

[Lee Scatt]

If the guy is caught red handed, it isn't vengeance, it is protection of society.
William Cruse is eating on my tax dollar. He shot and killed a couple of cops and innocents. He had the rifle in his hand when apprehended. A head shot right then would have been more sensible all around.

[JRB549]

Hay Lee, miss talkin ta ya. I know this will sound crazy but I agree with Hitler on one point, if you were found guilty, you were takin outside to a small wall and shot. Problem solved, no appels, no fuss, no cost to the tax payer.

[Early Bird Dave]

OK guys I know I shouldn't bring this since there is a lot of guns lovers in this forum and I'm really on the opposite spectrum. But from my point of vue, if guns are not so natural in a culture, and if there is some restrictive laws about possessing them, may be those kind of horror stories wouldn't be so common...

73 times! my God!

Maher

Maher, this only works if you remove/punish the criminal.
Our system repeatedly lets them back out after a year or 2.
Many have multiple charges pending and past convictions when they finally get caught with the big one. How many times have they done a serious crime and not been caught? MANY TIMES!
Did you hear about the old man in California who called the police because an unsavory individual was snooping around his front gate. They decided it was low priority and did not respond. He was stabbed to death in his own home by a 20 something drug user. (No guns allowed where he lived).
What were his chances? Bet a gun would have given him a chance!
Bring back swift and harsh punishment for violent criminals.
Death penalty removes the trash from our society. If you never empty the trash it starts to stink up everything and overflow. JMHO!
DH

[WaspAir]

If the guy is caught red handed, it isn't vengeance, it is protection of society.
William Cruse is eating on my tax dollar. He shot and killed a couple of cops and innocents. He had the rifle in his hand when apprehended. A head shot right then would have been more sensible all around.

We obviously have plenty of 2nd Amendment fans on this forum.
But that's not the only one in the Bill of Rights. Fully half of them (the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th) deal with how we handle those accused of crimes. The Founding Fathers must have thought those things were pretty important to prevent tyranny or they wouldn't have put in so much about it.
Innocent until proven guilty, through due process of law, is one of our fundamental American ideals. And if you don't believe in those rights, just what rights are we protecting with all the guns?

I'm finding parts of this thread very troubling. A good dose of racism at the start, tolerated without comment by most, and an attitude that bad people should be executed on the spot in a hail of bullets, all seems pretty un-American to me.

Crime is horrible, but ignoring the American way to deal with it is a poor way to repay those who fought for the whole bill of rights.

[choppergabor]

I'm finding parts of this thread very troubling. A good dose of racism at the start, tolerated without comment by most, and an attitude that bad people should be executed on the spot in a hail of bullets, all seems pretty un-American to me.
JR. Where do you find racism in this thread? Would you point me to it please. I have just wasted 5 minutes to fact check by rereading the thread. Usual result. Can't find it! Soooooo help me please. For a life of me I can not find any racist comments.Thank you.

[AirScooter]

I do not believe our founding fathers had what we call a justice system in mind. I believe they meant for us to have due process and I stand behind that. But not drawn out process and at the end of that, just a slap on the wrist. We need to take a lesson from the Russian prisons, those inmates are treated like they should be.... inmates! Life means life. Death means death.

Yes I do believe if someone is proven guilty of a murder with DNA. Give him two phone calls and ten minutes to make things right, and a bullet to the head. That would be more human rights than he gave his victim. If he is proven guilty by physical evidence(fingerprints etc.) and multiple witnesses same ten minute treatment. If it were circumstantial evidence-30 years with no parole. Just make punishment simple by the book with all crimes and swift.

[JRB549]

I thought I started drinkin early lol, Gabor you've lost me bro, dont know what ya mean.

[WaspAir]

JR. Where do you find racism in this thread? Would you point me to it please. I have just wasted 5 minutes to fact check by rereading the thread. Usual result. Can't find it! Soooooo help me please. For a life of me I can not find any racist comments.Thank you.
First line of the first post:
crackhead spearchucker stole hotel furniture, got pulled over...
That's an extremely derogatory term for someone with black skin. Almost as bad as the "n" word.

Ron commented like this:
Spearchucker huh........
and it got this response in pseudo-black dialect:
...dats be rite Mitza Ron.

[StanFoster]

JR- Gabor was responding to Waspair.


Stan

[choppergabor]

Sir you have no understanding the word RACIST! The word for this is BIGOT!!! This is such an over used and abused word it has no meanings anymore because of people like you using it making a point. Very disappointing. That's all I have to say about it. :) Good day!

[choppergabor]

I thought I started drinkin early lol, Gabor you've lost me bro, dont know what ya mean.
Not you baby you are still good in my court :) Love ya

[Doug Riley]

Gabor, "spear chucker" is in the same category as "ni--er" in referring to dark-skinned people. Maybe worse.

I live in Vermont, the whitest state in the Union. We have murderous scumbags like everyone else. They're usually white males.

In all the serial killer cases I can think of, except Malvo (the trunk sniper) and one woman whose name escapes me, the perps were white males. Ditto all the race-related lynchings over the decades.

Prisoners get popped from jail early because the jails are overcrowded. Jails are REALLY expensive to run and taxpayers don't want to pay for them (or have to look at them in THEIR neighborhoods).

[choppergabor]

Doug thank you I was not familiar and it's my ignorance. I am on the same page as you when it comes to white trash or any other color for that matter. A garbage is a garbage no matter what gender,race,orientation etc etc he or she may be. What I am objecting here is the use of "RACISM". And this is the definition of it: Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. There is not one and I emphasize "NOT ONE" comment that fits that definition. I jump at it since I got to know Al Sharpten, Jesse Jackson and all the race whore$! This is Bigotry. Definition: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs, refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, political alignment, nationality, language, sexual orientation, and age. I'd expect a lot more from an educated Lawyer like JR than pulling the race card. That is my objection and all I was referring to. Doug I do appreciate the help though! I really do as I am always eager to learn. :)
I would like to add one last thing to the legal argument about amendments and all. "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence.These three aspects are listed among the "unalienable rights" or sovereign rights of man. Just for the scholars who want to debate something that is not up for negotiation!

[JRB549]

Guess I'll throw down here( this is slang of the south) as to racism that is real and for those who havent had to deal with it, it goes like this. My grndmother said never to speak of who I am and if asked say mexican because that race was considered better than mine and the proof of it is the Indian is still in a Pen. No other Race of Native Americans have ever been treated as the Indian's.
Right"s, the only rights we have is like a distant misty cloud, you see it, you know it's real and yet it never get to you because of a wind blown by those that beat a drum of their right, not yours.
Now some may say follow the LAW as written but when was the last time the LAW followed those people who wanted to be covered under the Law.
Where is the channel "White enertainment", "White History Month" "White Collage's" ect...I can go on and on for many things for many races that by the LAW have now made me a" Bigot."

[Earthboundmisft]

Congradulations Waspair! I wondered how long it would take for someone
to pull the race card. Good for you, hope you feel better.
Did you have a look at the 'suspect', and read his history?
If the shoe fits, WEAR IT. Unbelievable...

[j bird]

I was definitely take aback by the bigoted word " spearchucker ". If I was a black man on this forum, I would be very agitated by the use of the word to describe the man.
I support the 2nd. amendment, and believe that people convicted of heinous crimes should be dispatched of as soon as possible by the state.

[Lee Scatt]

Geeze guys, lighten up. Since when did we care if someone gets agitated? I thought it pretty well summed up his net worth,and was funny. I am color blind here, but I think an afro-american man reading this forum should be agitated by his "brothers" actions,not the words used to describe the POS.

[Earthboundmisft]

Couldn't have said it better. Everyone knows the difference.
My good friend, a talented aircraft mechanic, is black.
Grow a set.

[WaspAir]

Congradulations Waspair! I wondered how long it would take for someone
to pull the race card. Good for you, hope you feel better.
Did you have a look at the 'suspect', and read his history?
If the shoe fits, WEAR IT. Unbelievable...

Given that you wrote the first post, and that the second word you typed was "spearchucker", it certainly looks to me as if you first decided that the race of the criminal was somehow pertinent to this case.

So, tell us how it matters? Is the suspect's history of being black important? How?

You also decided that a racial slur was the best way to bring up the race of the accused. And you made sure we knew about that in your opening line before you even mentioned the illegal deed.

Race card? I didn't offer race as any sort of excuse or cause for sympathy for the accused (and I hope justice is done through our judicial system). I merely pointed out that a word was being used that I and millions of other people find patently offensive. I didn't use the term.

What sort of person feels a need to use racial slurs to describe people? Try that shoe on YOUR foot.

[Earthboundmisft]

You win, I'm out.
Have a nice day.

[BUD ONEAL]

Given that you wrote the first post, and that the second word you typed was "spearchucker", it certainly looks to me as if you first decided that the race of the criminal was somehow pertinent to this case.

So, tell us how it matters? Is the suspect's history of being black important? How?

You also decided that a racial slur was the best way to bring up the race of the accused. And you made sure we knew about that in your opening line before you even mentioned the illegal deed.

Race card? I didn't offer race as any sort of excuse or cause for sympathy for the accused (and I hope justice is done through our judicial system). I merely pointed out that a word was being used that I and millions of other people find patently offensive. I didn't use the term.

What sort of person feels a need to use racial slurs to describe people? Try that shoe on YOUR foot.




Hey man,why can't a white guy chuck a spear? J.R.B and I share a common line,American Indian,our people "chucked" spears to. I did when younger hunting hogs in south Fla.

[pancho]

I have problems with the idea that certain words here are objectionable such as the "N" word or other similar adjectives. I personally find it extremely offensive that another man, without even a " Dog in the fight" finds it incumbent upon himself to inform everyone else what is acceptable language. At the same time this same fellow is likely to cut loose with the foulest language known to man. That is acceptable, but "N---- rigged" without any direct implication brands someone a biggot. I'm not one to run around slapping folks in the face and I also believe that God created all men equal. But I'm not about to allow some self righteous biggot to take away my freedom of speech. And I'll use that term if I damn well please, Or not if I don't please. MY choice, not the PC police. ( I'm not talking about anyone here, as I don't even know you outside of the forum)
Second point I sure wish we had more folks like Gabor here. I can't express how much I appreciate you, and those of your mindset comming here and replenishing the nearly forgotten love of liberty.

[Lee Scatt]

I've been called a honky cracker, I wasn't bothered by it in the least. I am proud of my cracker heritage. Do you really think afro-americans are that sensitive that it hurts their feelings? Why should you honkies feel offended?

[Adam H]

The last few posts give me hope. For a moment I thought we actually cared about besmirching a guy who just murdered a cop by calling him a spear chucker. :puke:

BTW, if I ever murder anyone, feel free to call me a cracker hillbilly white-devil kraut - I'll be OK with it.

[Master Roda]

I threw javelin in high school.......does that count? :lol:

[BUD ONEAL]

Yes Jon, you be a spear chucker also!

[JRB549]

..while at a Highend night club...not long ago. 3 ladies at the table next to mine, overheard my conversation and after sayin "Yankee", they felt very put out and decided to tell me about it....I listened and then took them to school about what was real life and wasnt. They left with a new understanding of the South. "ya'll come back now ya hear?

[earthbnd misfit]

I'm not racist, I just hate everyone equally.:boink: But on that note, I better change my user name, I don't want to be thought of as a racist. It's OK to think what ever you want, just don't write it. A certain percentage will always diagree with you.
We have very stricked gun laws in Australia, and we don't have many murders. That's not to say guns are blamed for violence, just the society you live in.

[REDHORSE556CES]

I remember when the last cop killer was rained on by Polk county deputies.
The sheriff was asked by a newswoman why the perp was shot 73 times....."Because we ran out of ammo".
Should have happend here.

Correction, it was 68 rounds.

A number of years ago the City of Dallas had an officer killed by a "perp". Pursuit ensued with about five law enforcement agencies, including FBI. The suspect wrecked out on an overhead freeway, came out of the car with a rifle. They shot the supect very dead. The medical examiner said the deceased had over 100 entry wounds, including four in the soles of his feet. Justice served.

[groundhog]

To me its the punishment of the crime.I believe punishment should be on the free enterprise sysstem.If we believe there are too many murders the punishment should increase.If we believe there isn't enough murdering going on the punishment should be less.
And for my vote the only connotation I got from spear chucker was "primitive or uncivilised " I did not assume a colour.

[Scary Gary]

I threw javelin in high school.......does that count? :lol:

Javelin chucker!

[Earthboundmisft]

Couldn't resist one more comment.
So, from my whole story about this event,
a certain few had NO response to the fact that a veteran deputy was shot
point blank in the face and chest, and DIED, after a high speed pursuit
on a busy road, but felt compelled to argue about ONE word chosen
to describe the POS perp. Dammitt, better not say what I'm thinking.

[gyromike]

I think it's time to shut this one down.