Brasilian Giro

[PTKay]

Can anybody tell what it is ?

http://www.gespi.com.br/giro.htm

It looks like Magni, but there is no refernce to it on the page.

Mayby some of our Brasilan friends can tell more.

PTKay

[rehler]

It is a Magni M-21. See it on thier web site:

http://www.magnigyro.com/English/m21.htm

However, it looks like the model shown on the web site has dual rudders and tail booms like on my gyro. I wonder which they will be using (single or dual tail)?

[twistair]

'21 is twinboom. This Brazilian gyro seems more likely to be M16JE.
Showed at the attached picture is the gyro of French Magni dealer - Eric Changeur, sitting in the backseat.
BTW, PTkay, the guy in front seat is a Polish student getting his license this summer.

[Mike Hook]

O.K. all you gyro experts tell me is this gyro stable with the doors on? I am just trying to learn here and have been talking in all of your converstions on stability.
thanks,

Mike Hook

[PTKay]

Alex,

do you know anything more about this Polish student ?

This Brasilian gyro really looks like M-16, but if you look carefully, they have a nive, aerodynamic cover over the engine.

Is this an option for M-16, or amybe it is really a mix M-16 and M-21 ?

PTKay

[twistair]

Paul,
His name is Tomek, he visited me in Moscow last winter for a demonstration ride, but the weather wasn't lucky for him. He is travelling much due to his job - France was one of his travels. He also wish to visit PolishCopter soon. I can give him your e-mail address if you wish to contact him. Drop me few lines by e-mail.

[Heron]

That is the GESPI 2000 made in Brazil, Magni licensed (maybe revoked)
it is very expensive even for USA market.
I've spoken briefly with the manufactures about 2 years ago, do not know actual status and directions they going to . . .
People say it is nice and I believe it has the Magni records for performance and craftsmanship. ::)
There seems to be only one model that is popular and still been built in Brasil and that is the AC4 two seater, the expertes around here all had the same reaction to the pics: Yikes!!! :o
Thanks
Heron

[twistair]

I've seen one more Brasilian gyro picture - don't know if it is produced anymore

[Hognose]

It looks like Magni, but there is no refernce to it on the page.



Paul, Ken, and guys:

Here's some more stuff from their web page, translated from the Portugues to English in my own meathead style:

http://www.gespi.com.br/gp_aplic.htm

Typical Applications for the GP-2000

GP-M2000 : developed for military missions such as these: border patrol, aerial surveillance of activities, and other special missions.

GP-A2000 : used for crop dusting, offering operators low cost, safety and versatility.

GP-C2000 : an economical option for locating forest fires, civil defence, inspection of high tension lines, checking maritime pollution, pipeline inspection, executive transportation and other applications, including sport flying. (literally 'amateur sport').

(http://)

Performance Data

*
Basic Model
Minimum speed: 35 km/h (20 mph)
Maximum speed: 161 km/h (100 mph)
Cruise speed: 129 km/h (80 mph)
Take off distance: 100 meters
Landing distance: 0 to 30 meters
Rate of climb: 4 m/s
Fuel capacity: 60 liters
Endurance: 3.5 hours
Max. ceiling: 4.000 m
Service ceiling: 3.500 m

Engine/Propeller Group
Rotax 912 S

Power
100 HP

Propeller
Three-bladed, Arplast propeller from France (1.70 m dia.) * * * *

Advanced Model
Minimum speed: 35 km/h (20 mph)
Maximum speed: 185 km/h (115 mph)
Cruise Speed: 145 km/h (90 mph)
Take off distance: 60 meters
Landing distance: 0 to 30 meters
Rate of climb: 5 m/s
Fuel Capacity: 60 liters
Endurance: 3.0 hours
Max. ceiling: 4.000 m
Service ceiling: 3.500 m
*
Engine/Propeller Group
Rotax 914 UL Turbo

Power: 115 HP

Propeller: Three-bladed, Arplast propeller from France (1.70 m dia.) * * * *
*
ROTOR (Note: this applies to both versions of the machine)
Type of blades: hybrid construction (materials, composite and aluminium)

Diameter: 8.23 meters

Type: Two-bladed

Pitch: Fixed, angle of incidence: 2.5 degrees

Principal Dimensions
Width: 1.850 m

Length: 5.000 m

Height: 2.600 m

I've tried to use all-American spellings even. Have not translated the units to Imperial measures yet, will try to get back and do it if I remember. Most of these you can do in your head anyway; the exceptions are the climb rates. 4 m/s is about 790 fpm and 5 m/s about 985.

cheers

-=K=-

[Hognose]

Performance Data



Er, duh. Those are from here: http://www.gespi.com.br/gp_spec.htm

Sorry about that lads.

cheers

-=K=-

[jos]

Buy the original Magnigyro instead of a quick fit copy.
The original has 20 years manufacturers experience you cannot see, but notice once you own one.

JOS

[Heron]

Jos
The Paturi (mallard) is from my home town Bauru in the heart of Sao Paulo State.
The original manufacturer Jose Ribeiro, died of a heart attack getting ready to take off and I don't know if anybody has taken up production.
That address still in Bauru, but I never heard anything about it when I was living there.
thanks
Heron