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Brent_Brown
11-29-2004, 04:03 AM
This is cool trike guys can convert to blades.
barnstorm2
11-29-2004, 07:14 AM
Has it been flown in both configs? Looks like 2 dif machines. Is the gyro CLT?
Brent_Brown
11-29-2004, 08:02 AM
I don't know anything about it just looked cool to me. So I posted it.
gyromike
11-29-2004, 08:55 AM
It looks like the red machine has the rotor head fixed in pitch/roll by the 2 silver tubes running down to the hoop frame around the seat. :confused:
Is is supposed to be a weight shift?
But it looks like beat Ken J. to the punch on the right-angle gearbox. :D
Cobra Doc
11-29-2004, 09:13 AM
Somehow the red one looks like an artist's rendering: The "control tubes" are attached to the pre-rotator plate and the right tube is inside the forward brace. I ain't gonna be the first one to try that set-up!!
skyguynca
11-29-2004, 11:56 AM
Looks like it is set up like the old bensen overhead stick, except with the front brace the old weight shift bars clear up that problem. Throttle seems to be a squeeze handle on the control bar just like a powered trike, system seems ok but must be heavier than a standard gyro, to many extra parts.
Cobra Doc
11-29-2004, 12:29 PM
I still say the red one is a fake. The airframe member going from the nose to the mast, and the supports for the tails and the rotor blades are "choppy", not smooth like the rest of the airframe in the picture. Those parts were drawn in. It's a modified picture of a Trike. I'm still not going to fly it with the controls mounted through the prerotator disk. Ya'll been faked out. There is no doubt the airframe has a lot of time on it...as a Trike. Good concept, poor execution.
gyroblackwell
11-29-2004, 01:00 PM
ACTUALLY THIS DESIGN WILL WORK!
The only odd situation is that it controls (flys) like a trike! The triangle control bar is standard for a trike. The gimble head is standard for a gyro.... combine the two and you have a control sys. that will work for both. This is what I intended to do on a machine in the near future. The control sys. requires that you push the bar away from your body to climb, and pull towards yourself to level out. Right is left, and left is right ...(that is normal for a trike! )
The rudder gives you even more control (in the trike mode) .
I want to do this with my tail-dragger tractor configuration!
throttle is on the control bar, as well as front brake system.
It does work!
Tim
Brent_Brown
11-29-2004, 02:16 PM
What is going on here it is a gyro with a overhead control not who killed kenny. I will email the web site that I got it and ask for all the info on it. OK.
So what is the other gyro made of steel? It muct be fake too. LOL
Brent_Brown
11-29-2004, 03:06 PM
http://www.jsb-engines.be/
I emailed them to get more on the trikegyro but here is the site so you can send an email maybe one of us might get a reply.
Brent_Brown
11-29-2004, 03:14 PM
Here is another one I like but again it is not in the USA.
Rando
11-29-2004, 03:22 PM
Didn't Dr. Ralph Taggart experiment with a trike control on a Gyrobee?
RICK MARTIN
11-29-2004, 05:09 PM
Yes he did. He ended up changing it. I'll let him tell the story again if he wants to. I believe he already reported it on his site.
mceagle
11-29-2004, 07:31 PM
Another trike converted to Gyro. The picture would suggest that a balance test would be way out but I know this one flys well
quadrirotor
11-29-2004, 07:41 PM
Brent, this is a zenon french gyro:
http://www.absaerolight.com/PAGEXENON02.html
The red trike gyro is not fake.
It had in the first conversion an arrow 1000gt two stroke engine.
Later it was changed to a quick fit ea81 engine and believe me it does fly.
JOS
Hognose
12-21-2004, 02:21 PM
I have heard that trike-gyro conversions are common enough in Australia that they have their own name, "gykes" -- that strikes me as strange, but then there are a lot of critters native only to Oz.
The other, French Xenon gyro, looks in the flying pictures like it has a four bladed rotor but this must just be an artefact of camera shutter speed.
The website shows a lot of concern for style -- carpeting and colour combinations -- but not so much for engineering. The abrupt Kamm-type end of the cabin has to create some humongous drag. You wouldn't want to lose the induced drag of the rotor on this baby, I'm thinking. It all but sits up and begs for a pressure recovery cowling.
Appearances can be deceptive... but I can't envision anything good coming from that abruptly terminated cabin.
cheers
-=K=-
KenSandyEggo
12-21-2004, 03:47 PM
That looks like a lot of side-slab area that might cause problems. Leave the doors off and add a Rotax 4 stroke or Soob and it may be O.K.
Xenon-designer
12-20-2006, 10:25 AM
Hello guys,
you found really old photos of our second prototype of 4 years ago...
Check our website, (by the way a new one will be valid in one month) and you'll see that this Xenon machine is not only nice carpetting inside... it is actually one of the very few machines cetified in many many countries... and probably the only one that has full structural analysys. Check the site you'll get some samples of that :-)
And one is one flying in US... soon more when we'll catch a serious distributor.
Nice flights and happy Chrismas to all !
Raphael
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