Dynacam - another revolutionnary engine ...

[Victor Duarte]

http://www.dynacam.com/index.htm

"The Dyna-Cam engine has passed FAA certification testing and was awarded Type Certificate No. 293 for Helicopters."

i hope it is not just a hoax...
You CA guys have heard about that ? pricing?
thank you

[quadrirotor]

Too long on R&D not to be a money catcher! i suspect a too high level of stress on the side of the pistons to have a dependable engine!
This engine is a deviation of an hydraulic engine, where weight is not a problem...

[Victor Duarte]

The engine seems FAA certified, thats is not nothing..
what about pricing ?

[quadrirotor]

FAA certified, so deserves a glance!

[Victor Duarte]

anyone has an idea of pricing ?

[KenSandyEggo]

I thought Dyna-Cam went belly-up years ago. Maybe someone took it over to try again. Just saw the following on their website. I didn't look at everything, but I didn't see anything about FAA certification. In fact, it indicates the opposite. I probably didn't look well enough yet.

"........we intend to initially target the kitbuilt segment of the experimental aircraft market with this model."

Yep. Sounds like a reincarnation.

"Past associates, please update your addresses."

[Victor Duarte]

Hi ken, i sware, i just "cut n pasted it" ...
http://www.dynacam.com/Product/Research_and_Development/research_and_development.html
another "cut-n-paste" :
Dyna-Cam Engine technology has had many levels of refinement. There were five different levels of prototype development and ten generations of piston development. After many refinements and years of development the Dyna-Cam Engine was built for aircraft and helicopter use and received FAA Certification. The current design has evolved from over 40 sets of engine blocks built into running engines for testing.

It took them several years of research and development to achieve FAA certification


the link where thay state that.
http://www.dynacam.com/Applications/Aircraft/aircraft.html

and a secret link about their secret pricing :D
http://www.dynacam.com/Sales/Purchase_Info/purchase_info.html

[Cobra Doc]

They've been around since the early '60s. Kind of makes you wonder how and why. Tax write-off maybe?

[Victor Duarte]

hi Cody, so no one heard, no one has an opinion.. i guess it is another exotic project..
the sentence "follow the leaders" make sense.
thanks

[Cobra Doc]

I've seen the engine both in a Cherokee and disassembled. Interesting, but I've never seen proof of any of their claims. I don't remember how far back the original design goes. It's been around longer than Dynacam. I think I would rather play with Delta Hawk's diesel or a small turbine.

[Victor Duarte]

yes i got a look at deltahawk, nice for heavier aircrafts.. waiting for a small diesel engine... (100 hp max), maybe a smart engine

[skyguynca]

I remember Dynacam......I think they have been poking around about getting a engine up and running for 20 years.........hmmm if they have finally done it probably not going to be cheap or even affordable.

[Will Crisp]

Hi Guys,

I scoped out the Dynacam web site and found out why they have been around so long. Dynacam has been selling an engine to the US Navy for twenty years. They claim the Navy uses them in torpedoes.

Secret pricing....Victor you are one funny guy! :)

[Victor Duarte]

Will, i would like to know the price, but it is , so, very very very secret :D

[Cobra Doc]

A torpedo engine in an airplane. Hmmm....a seaplane maybe?

[KenSandyEggo]

Does Moeller (Sky-Car) have anything to do with it? Sounds like the same pattern. They'll probably get a 10 million dollar federal grant like Moeller got to go behind the barn and yank his putz for another 20 or 30 years.

[Victor Duarte]

Oh! skycar... i forgot that one... 15 years past, at least.. and always a nice piece of plastic... the worst is that they knew since tha beginning that it would'nt work..
some are skilled in public relations-fund-sucking.
a friend of mine told me there are two ways to do business : a good purse or good relations.. nevermind the idea..

[skyguynca]

I remember, I think it was just a couple of years ago, the Skycar was sold on ebay for $10,000.00...........not much considering the tax dollars that went into it.

[Jerseywing]

Torpedo engine Eh?

Right 15 degrees rudder
Make your depth 55 feet
Scope up,
Firing point procedures, Tube 1 target victor 1
Bearing, Mark
Range, 2 Divisions high power
Angle on the bow, port 90
Scope down
Do we have a solution?
Target bearing 135
range 5000 yds
course 225,
speed 7 kts
Tube 1, Shoot...

(sorry I got carried away :o )

[Victor Duarte]

Cody you should see the movie "red october" again :D
so ? torpedo engine or sunk engine ? was it on the kursk torpedoes? :D

[Jerseywing]

Sorry I didn't mean you Victor victor is the term used to denote a visual target
Sierra is a sonar target

Mike

[Victor Duarte]

no prob, Cody, i found it very real, sounds like a lived experience :D
off topic : did you had the occasion to sink something real ? classified?
did you have high speed torpedoes?

[Jerseywing]

Never sank anything but the torpedoes are smart sons of bitches. They'll find what they're looking for..
I wouldn't want to be running from one thats for sure

[Jazzenjohn]

They say in their website the price is $30,000
I've seen a cutaway of the engine but they didn't have a working model when I talked to the builder some years ago. The problem he had at that time was with the cam valve section. We have made advancements in materials since then though.

[Victor Duarte]

30.000 ? caugh !! caugh ! caugh.! ....nothing, just my wallet hurting .
I suddenly find a lot of charms in rotax engines... hey rotax, what about a run ;) :D

[Jerseywing]

30K!!!
Must be for the platinum and gold coating on the fuggizit valve... ;-)

[Cobra Doc]

Dynacam, Skycar, Carter Copter,......ad nauseum infinitus

[Victor Duarte]

mergitur nec fluctuat :D

[quadrirotor]

errare humanum est, ex nihilo nihil...

[Victor Duarte]

Ossobucco milanese ! :D :D :D

[quadrirotor]

escabesh portugaise...

[Victor Duarte]

no andre : bacalhau :D

[quadrirotor]

You know what smells el bacalhau? :p

[Victor Duarte]

"El" is spanish , "O" is the portuguese word.
and I'm curious of your answer, let's go for the "joke of the day" :D

[jcamram]

hi forum from a newbie: i too had been following this for some years and had forgotten all about it. before i trusted this torsional stress nightmare with my life, i would use a rotary from mistral engines. it is a rotary wankel design based on the mazda 13B but built from the ground up and certain to get certification. in some cases it is a good idea to reinvent the wheel but only to simplify things, not to make them more complex. cheers.