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quadrirotor
11-02-2004, 04:58 AM
Don't forget crashability when you built a gyro!
(don't forget to read the warning!) :eek:
http://portaparty.net/bodie/crash_page.htm

Victor Duarte
11-02-2004, 07:00 AM
andre, i think I am very crashable :D

Dont forget to take out your fingers from your nose on landings !! :D :D :D

quadrirotor
11-02-2004, 07:03 AM
I didn't mean trashable!

Victor Duarte
11-02-2004, 07:57 AM
i feel inclined to words of wisdom :
"Si les hommes ne devaient parler qu'en connaissance de cause, un silence de mort tomberait sur la terre. "
trans :
'if men only should talk about what they really know, a deadly silence should fall on earth"
(anonymous)
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"Le vrai secret de la vie est de s'intéresser à une chose profondément et à mille autres choses suffisamment. "
trans :
"the real secret of life is to be interested to one thing intensively and to 1000 others enough"
(anonymous)
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"On sait que le propre du génie est de fournir des idées aux crétins une vingtaine d'années plus tard."
trans :
"the particularity of a genius is to give ideas to idiots 20 years later"
(aragon)
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"L'homme évite habituellement d'accorder de l'intelligence à autrui, sauf quand par hasard il s'agit d'un ennemi."
trans :
"the man usually avoids to recognize the other's intelligence, excepted when it is an enemy"
(albert einstein)
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"on reconnait un génie à sa capacité à unir contre lui un nombre considérable de crétins"
trans :
"a genius can be recognized byt it's ability to unite against him a remarquable amount of idiots"
(albert einstein)

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A man can be destroyed, but not overcome.
Ernest Hemingway 1899-1961

Victor Duarte
11-02-2004, 08:23 AM
one more i love
"on doit economiser son mépris, il y a tellement de necessiteux"
trans :
"we must save our contempt, there are so much needy ...."
(chateaubriand)

quadrirotor
11-02-2004, 08:38 AM
Zeeoo, you are too troll!

Victor Duarte
11-02-2004, 08:52 AM
you miss some sense of humour, andre

quadrirotor
11-02-2004, 09:15 AM
I see that you want to contribute actively to this thread!...What do think it could be done to make the gyro safer in case of a crash? i know that you have good ideas (a little pomad doesn't hurt!...). :D

Victor Duarte
11-02-2004, 09:32 AM
well, just mad ideas :

- a spheric airbag (tested yet for free falls and aplinists)
- a chute hanging the nose, the tail crumpling smooths schock
- real shock proof tanks
- prop and rotor stoppers (strong rods pushed through)
- smaller and lighter rotors
- ducted props
- sandwich or honeycomb airframes
- high dampened langing gears ( for vertical crashes)
- upper rudder part "breakable" to allow a "first alert" without loosing yaw
- a spring poisitionned rotor
- a gyroscopic stab
- an emergency rocket prerotator to regain rpm
- an engine dropper (lighter, less inertia)
- a good gyro
- a good pilot
- a good engine
- a good F***
- live in alaska
- be dead yet
- be poor
- not to fly
- say the aerial controller he is a D...head
- a book from ron hub-bar
- not a RAF
- the joke of the day
- salp and pepper
- mix
- heat
- ketchup
- eat
- mmmm goood

quadrirotor
11-02-2004, 01:15 PM
Not bad Victor, you are not as mad as you think... I recall what is very important:
- real shock proof tanks;
- sandwich or honeycomb airframes;
- high dampened langing gears ( for vertical crashes)...

All that can be inspired by some mature mechanical sports (car races F1, hydrofoil races...).
For F1 races, the cockpit can sustain a 200 kmh crash! it is made of composite-carbon-honeycomb like material...

Victor Duarte
11-02-2004, 01:28 PM
Not bad Victor, you are not as mad as you think
thanks andre, thanks to allow me to not underestimate my self :D :D

there's a thread about high carter struts here, check it.

carbon honeycomb > light > expensive > not easy to repair > breaks in chucks

i think epoxy/foam/epoxy can be a good compromise.
why do you think i designed my airframe with that ;)

thanks