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choppergabor
07-29-2010, 12:57 PM
Just wanted to thank you Rick for a very professional and knowledgeable help you have provided to pick the right parts for my needs. Super fast shipping and the parts are top notch. Pleasure to do business with you Rick. Thanks again.
Gabor

scottessex
07-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Nice, I notice that you have the better tires than what comes with the Black Max kit.

choppergabor
07-29-2010, 01:29 PM
Because he really likes me :) They are fat (just like moi) and cushy :) Always a plus for a beginner like me!

Resasi
07-29-2010, 01:32 PM
The 2 ply tyres we got from Black Max wore out very quickly.

The brakes though do work very well.

Those look like some real good bush tyres Gabor. And I see you got a nice looking cap into the bargain.

Rick Whittridge
07-29-2010, 01:40 PM
Scott, I prefer to use the Carlisle 4 Ply Tires with the 6X6 Kits. They cost more but hold up better. I`ve heard alot of people complain about the Quick Wearing tires supplied with the Black Max kit. Bottom Line Is You Get What You Pay For With My Kits!


Thank you Gabor !Nice, I notice that you have the better tires than what comes with the Black Max kit.

RotoPlane
07-29-2010, 02:06 PM
The master cylinders have what appears to be a knob for heel actuating….something I want if the empty weight allows hydraulic brakes.

Earthboundmisft
07-29-2010, 03:02 PM
Yo Fellas, I too was bummed out about the tires that came with the Black-Max gear.
While I was pleased with their lightweight, it wasn't long before they were flat everytime I opened the hangar. They leaked at the bead, regardless of inflation. I changed to another jap tire, that was more robust. I installed tubes, and inflated to about 8psi. Problem solved. Still have the tits on them after about 30 hours.

CLS447
07-29-2010, 03:04 PM
Why are you gonna use inner tubes ?

choppergabor
07-29-2010, 03:29 PM
Yo Fellas, I too was bummed out about the tires that came with the Black-Max gear.
While I was pleased with their lightweight, it wasn't long before they were flat everytime I opened the hangar. They leaked at the bead, regardless of inflation. I changed to another jap tire, that was more robust. I installed tubes, and inflated to about 8psi. Problem solved. Still have the tits on them after about 30 hours.
Thanks Mike I am working on a mid ring between the halves so it won't pinch the inner tube. I do appreciate the info! Did you relocate the hole for the valve stem? I'll just use the existing since after measuring it it's only a bit off center and the tube should conform to the shape anyways. 8 PSI? Do you have the same 15x6.00x6?

choppergabor
07-29-2010, 03:32 PM
Why are you gonna use inner tubes ?
Safer more durable and usually holds the air :)
Nothing looks as spectacular as hitting the runway in a certain angle that lets the air out at the bead in an instant! :)
Pretty funny when you are a spectator.
Not as funny when it happens under yo butt.......

Georgi
07-29-2010, 03:33 PM
Guys,I am a little bit puzzled. I thought the better breaks ,the more they will wear tires!

Passin' Thru
07-29-2010, 03:45 PM
Guys,I am a little bit puzzled. I thought the better breaks ,the more they will wear tires!
Yes, but some tire more so than others ! :lol:

Earthboundmisft
07-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Guys, I installed the tubes to solve leaking problems at the BEADS. My rims are welded at the center. I used the original stem holes, just bent the stems over. No problems so far after roughly 30? hours. Tires are like marshmellows when I land. I only use the brakes a little bit to steer. I cant imagine skidding a main tire...

gyromike
07-29-2010, 05:05 PM
I used to have trouble with my Hegars losing air. I ws set up for tubeless with the o-rings between the wheel halves but I was always adding air. After putting a couple of tubes I rarely have to air them up.

Timchick
07-29-2010, 06:53 PM
After I went out to fly one day and couldn't because I had a flat tire I ended up putting tubes in my tubeless hegar rims also. My tires would leak down before I put the tubes in. Never had any problems after that.

Rick Whittridge
07-29-2010, 07:27 PM
Guy`s 9 times out of 10 it is the tires bleeding down not the rims at the center. Clean assembly is key to success & good tires. These are not steel belted radial tires we use but lawn & garden tires at low pressure. Tire beads can leak , valve stems are vulnerable also. My experience is the better the tire the better the results. Tubes just add weight! If something leaks get out the soapy water bottle & find the leak & fix it..

CLS447
07-30-2010, 12:33 AM
I have tubeless Hegars on my 2 place. No problems with air loss yet.

I was wondering what tubes will fit these rims without a valve stem problem.

I hope to never have to add tubes !

Rick Whittridge
07-30-2010, 05:39 AM
Chris, The hole in your rim for the tubeless tires is in the wrong place if you want to use a tube. You have to relocate the hole or change the wheel half to accept the use of a tube. In other words the valve stem on the tube is lower in the wheel & will be in a bind if used in hole for the tubeless stem.

choppergabor
07-30-2010, 05:48 AM
Correction to that Rick the stem is only 1/4" off the hole that has been drilled into the hub. Certainly doesn't justify drilling another hole into the hub to me. The innertube will conform to the walls of the tire with no stretching at all. No need to relocate the hole. It fits beautifully. See: http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25249&page=59
Going tubed is painless :)

Greg Lockhart
07-30-2010, 06:58 AM
I recently purchased a set of wheels and brakes from Rick and I agree... they are very nice.
I mounted the original Air Trac tires that came with my SparrowHawk on them. The tires are labeled "Tube Type". Even though the wheels & tires held a constant air pressure without tubes (on my workbench) I was advised to use tubes with the tires as the bead on tube type tires is not the same as on tubeless tires and the seal could easily fail causing very unpleasant results. The tubes that came with the SH kit had bent (steel) stems which didn't work as well with these wheels as I would like so I bought some tubes with straight (rubber coated) stems. The stem position seemed to fit the hole in the rims pretty well with out any noticeable binding. If there is any problem there I guess I'll find out someday (with a leaking stem). I would hate to have to drill another hole in these beautiful rims to accommodate a tube stem.
If anyone can use these three tubes with the bent stem you can have them. They are basically new.. they were in my original wheels / tires sitting in my garage but never actually used. Size 15X6.00-6

CLS447
07-31-2010, 11:44 AM
Rick, I know that you are supposed to use ATF fluid in these brakes.

What would happen if someone were to use Dot 3 brake fluid ?

Rick Whittridge
07-31-2010, 02:12 PM
Chris, They would most likely FAIL! The Orings are not compatable with Dot3.

CLS447
07-31-2010, 02:50 PM
Thanks Rick, even after I told "him" to use ATF he used brake fluid anyway.

We ended up flushing it out with ATF & we got some brakes now. But I don't know if the damage is already done.

Chuck Roberg
07-31-2010, 02:55 PM
Thanks Rick, even after I told "him" to use ATF he used brake fluid anyway.

We ended up flushing it out with ATF & we got some brakes now. But I don't know if the damage is already done.

If the damage was done then the seals will leak. You will either see fluid leaking out or poor or no brakes.

CLS447
07-31-2010, 02:57 PM
Will it hurt the calipers & the master cylinder ?

Can they be cleaned up & new seals installed ?

Rick , can you get the parts ?

Rick Whittridge
07-31-2010, 05:19 PM
Chris, The Dot 3 won`t hurt the alum but may have swelled the rubber componets inside. Like Chuck said if it leaks or locks up or no brakes then yes they can be rebuilt. Parts are available.