View Full Version : Class D leaf peeping in Cincinnati
10-24-2004, 09:09 PM
Got behind. Time to get caught up with the picture posting...
My final requirement to fullfil my private pilot
rotorcraft requirements (before I can take my FAA
check ride) was to takeoff and land 3 times at a
towered controlled airport.
Recently, I chose Lunken airport to be my Class-D
airport for meeting this requirement.
I stopped by after work and took a tour of the tower
at Lunken Field. This was my second tour of the tower, my
first was in gradeschool. I don't remember much about
the first tour.
The controllers were great and told me they were happy
I visited and they wished more pilots took the
initative to check out their operations.
When I flew in a differnt crew was working. The
controler was good but despite me adviseing her I was
a student pilot in an open-cockpit craft she still
spoke fast and brief. I had to ask her to say again
I left very late so sun was low in the sky. Returning
home the sun was setting just as I landed in Clermont
I was vectored over some terrain that gave few good
choices for emergency landings but I kept a diligent
eye out. (pucker factor!)
Along with the sunset and turning trees I had the
treat of getting to fly over the marina where I keep
10-24-2004, 09:11 PM
Next set of photos...
You can see the moon in several photos.
10-24-2004, 09:12 PM
10-24-2004, 11:52 PM
Ay Tim,didn't i tell you to put altitude warnings on pix like that ;) ,you'll give a bloke a hart attack mate. :D
10-25-2004, 07:32 AM
10-25-2004, 12:15 PM
I had no 'control' as they told me what heading and altitude to take for everything! At times the emergency landing spots were less than slim picken's. With the altitude I had the glide path would have given me some time to pick a spot but there just were not a lot of spots! I wanted to climb or drop and follow the farmland around the trees but no dice, controlled airspace is all about being controlled!
I have gotten used to flying AGL and this trip everything was MSL.
I glad to have that done with. I have less 'fear' of flying into controlled airspace now but I still prefer to avoid it.
When I told the tower personelle that I did not have a mode-c transponder you could tell they were not amused. I was thinking it would be cool to have a transponder so I could feel more welcome in Class-D but I don't think you can get one for less than a couple of grand? If I could get a transponder for say $300 I would get one.
Your 'down close' shots are great. Makes me want to get a hot-rod single place. My 447 does not have the muscle to hot dog down low and my two-place is too 'truck-like'.
10-25-2004, 01:11 PM
It's interesting that they had you fly the pattern that high. I've flown into GYR a few times and they have always been happy to let me fly my normal pattern, 1/4 to 1/2 mile out and 500'AGL. They also authorized early x-wind turns when I was doing my pattern work so I didn't have to fly 2 miles before making my turn. Of course, I've usually gone in there when they weren't busy, although I did fly there once with my instructor when it was busier and we did have to work some on spacing, but they still kept us low and close. It keeps out of the way of the fast traffic. They are probably more used to gyros at GYR than where you were flying. Remember that you can always request what you want from ATC. If they've never dealt with a gyro before they may not know how slow you go, how limited your glide range is, or that you can operate safely at 500' .
From what I can tell, you can find used, yellow tagged transponders for $500-$600 on Ebay, plus another $100 or so for an altitude encoder. You may be able to do much better if you keep your eyes open and get lucky.
Good Luck on the checkride.
10-25-2004, 05:39 PM
Beautiful Pics... I can't wait till next fall. By then I'll be getting them in the Catskills to share. I'm training in LI NY and live close enough to Newark (EWR) that I've yet to see an airliner with it's gear up. I've been listening to the ATC broadcasts regularly to get them into my head ( you think it's bad when you play classic rock just imagine the kids with that blaring!!!). Anyway, I will have to travel a bit to find myself outside controlled air space for my solo time. Imagine this - NY ATC this is Mike in da gyro request left pattern at 1000'MSL and 500' off the runway Centerline for Touch and gos at EWR. The FAA'd love me
10-25-2004, 07:00 PM
Yes transponders aren't too expensive and are required in the craft has a electric system and you want in that kind of airspace.
10-25-2004, 07:04 PM
Sorry to hear about your airspace situation. If you do ever make that call please record it. It (and response) would make a good mp3. I listened to my radio a good while before I went too. It is a good idea.
10-26-2004, 10:55 AM
Great pics- looks really beautiful!
11-09-2004, 11:26 AM
Look in the used market for a good transponder. There are older non digital transponders that have been rebuilt that are in your price range. Or you could call a few avionics shops in your area.
Don't stop at just one trip into controled air space. If you do then you will never feal good about doing it when you want or need to. Most controlers will let you do what you want if you just let them know what it is. If you want to fly lower just tell them. The controler is there for your safety not the other way round.
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