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Xenon-designer
04-02-2010, 01:41 AM
Dear all,
On the next 7th April, we will release public information about 4 new gyros models...
They are currently in the final phase of development, they are bringing really new features on the market, very affordable, ultra safe.
Jump on our website, click Product, and discover our new models, but you have to wait till next tuesday.
All of them will be available as kits, especially for the USA market.
The order / reservation book will open officially the 8th April, as per the opening of the largest light aviation show: AERO Friedrischhafen - Germany.
Remarks and questions are welcomed as usual. We are happy to be at the listening, as we try since the xenon exist. Thanks to our customers, distributors that report us all snags and ideas, we were able to propose some of the finest gyros.
Fly safe till then,
scottessex
04-02-2010, 01:53 AM
Where is the link to the website?
PTKay
04-02-2010, 02:09 AM
Here:
http://www.celieraviation.eu/
:)
Resasi
04-02-2010, 05:01 AM
Good to see you pushing forward all the time Raphael.
11 hour endurance is quite something. I think perhaps that Irish pilot going round the world perhaps should have chosen this one.
Dmorris
04-02-2010, 12:08 PM
Just completed my annual on my Xenon today. Having flown it now for over two years I'm still amazed with the quality, design and performance of this aircraft.
Timchick
04-02-2010, 05:12 PM
Raphael, You should add your Xenon web site address to your forum signature. Looking forward to seeing the new models.
Dmorris
04-02-2010, 05:33 PM
If anyone in my part of the country "Kentucky" has an interest in Xenons now that they will once again be available in the US let me know and I'll be happy to show you mine and I'll take you for a ride. May possibly know someone who can offer builder assist services.
bones
04-06-2010, 01:36 AM
The new models and specs available now, go to
http://www.celieraviation.eu/
then run your mouse over the "products" heading and follow the small menu pop ups to which ever product you wish to read about.
PTKay
04-06-2010, 05:04 AM
This looks like it's going to be a MTO killer... :)
http://www.celieraviation.eu/pictures/0000/4921/kiss_poster1.tifweb_small.jpg?1270198424
skier
04-06-2010, 05:24 AM
Have these models been built and flow? or just designed? are there pictures of the actual ones built somewhere?
PTKay
04-06-2010, 05:45 AM
This maybe help you, Skier:
Welcome to our new website.
7 April 2010 – NEW MODEL RELEASE !
You shall discover our new series of single seat and tandems: KISS.
Have a look to our product line.
No photos but only computer images are shown, as we keep it still a little confidential the details. Machine is under completion and test analysis.
Kits shall be released in a few month, and certified assembled machines by the end of the year.
More news will appear here as they come.
The reservation book is open the 8th April. It means you can already reserve your own KISS, through a special contract provided at your request.
This KISS series, will make a real break through the little world of gyros. As lots of safety items are included, as per the Xenon, a world successful machine with clean safety records.
While waiting your comments and reservations, we wish you a great spring.
CELIER Aviation team.
This news announcement is unfortunately somehow hidden on the web page of CA.
The "news" menu is actually not news, but general stuff...
Resasi
04-06-2010, 03:27 PM
Certainly looks like an interesting new gyro on the scene and pitched at what looks like a sensible price.
Will look forward to seeing this one developing.
ms80831
04-06-2010, 08:20 PM
VERY NICE !
I want a KISS RST.
Just to be clear, is it ..... Celier - KISS ?
(Not Xenon - KISS.)
Is that correct?
As in Cessna Centurion, and Piper Cub ??
troed@aon.at
04-07-2010, 11:25 PM
The KISS-Gyros look very promising ......
Wonder if we gonna see some real-thing photos from AERO 2010 in Friedrichshafen/GER .................
Anyway, it seems European constructors now speed up in developing "everyday-use" gyroplanes, gonna be great times for us .... :first:
perbgyro
04-08-2010, 07:49 AM
When will they be available in the US? Link to news and FAA approval?
If anyone in my part of the country "Kentucky" has an interest in Xenons now that they will once again be available in the US let me know and I'll be happy to show you mine and I'll take you for a ride. May possibly know someone who can offer builder assist services.
Chuck Roberg
04-08-2010, 09:36 AM
I was told in a couple of months a couple of months ago. And a couple of months before that I was told in a couple of months.
The latest is they (FAA) are close. But don't hold your breath just yet.
t-bird
04-08-2010, 11:43 PM
The 50 liter fuel tank will limit the range dramatically.
bones
04-08-2010, 11:54 PM
The 50 liter fuel tank will limit the range dramatically.
50 lts would easy give you 2 hrs, now thats 2.5 countries in Europe :whoo: , yes that was one of my first thoughts also, i did a job today and was 3 hrs ferry time :plane:
t-bird
04-09-2010, 03:24 AM
Not with a 912 RT - same consumption as the 914 - which is between 22 and 25 liter an hour.
bones
04-09-2010, 03:30 AM
Not with a 912 RT - same consumption as the 914 - which is between 22 and 25 liter an hour.
Holy crap at what revs full throttle !!!!!!! man that is so wrong, as i have one.
WillyRose
04-09-2010, 04:44 AM
Ditto!
Not sure which engine our MTOsport has. It's non-turbo, anyway.
Consumption 13-15 litres/hour depending what we're doing with it.
All the best,
Clive
t-bird
04-09-2010, 05:08 AM
My figures are based on 8 gyros of different makes doing two 43 hour trips at an average of 88 mph.
One up with a 914 is 18 – 20 liters
bones
04-09-2010, 04:54 PM
Well i can get mine to chew 25lts per hr, but it needs to the lowest grade fuel 85, and there for more throttle, run 98 octane and its back to about around 16 on average.
"One up with a 914 is 18 – 20 liters " Ummmm my maths says there is more than 2 hrs flying in 50lts :)
Graeme Monro
04-10-2010, 02:02 AM
50 lts would easy give you 2 hrs, now thats 2.5 countries in Europe :whoo: , yes that was one of my first thoughts also, i did a job today and was 3 hrs fairy time :plane:
And I guess you were singing to yourself all the time " I'm a little teapot short and stout, here is my handle, here is my spout"......
Graeme.
I just can't help myself sometimes.
t-bird
04-10-2010, 11:16 AM
Hi Bones
Fuel used in South Africa 95 unleaded rest of the trip 100 ll avgas
Attached is the google download of one trip.
+- a roundtrip of Australia.
Xenon-designer
04-20-2010, 11:08 PM
Dear Gyro fans,
I was not able to be back earlier here, my schedules are tight...But i shall not complain to have a life lived in total passion.
About the fuel tank for the KISS on the RST version, will leave yes 2,5 hours. The payload is so huge, that it will be easy to add our optional tank. We are beside developping 3 military version, one especially long range with 12 hours endurance.
More on that later.
Patience to all, good things take time to come, as for the Xenon. We encourage anyone to visit the factorym and see what we do here.
In september we hope to organize a Xenon day, and to present a lot of new exiting stuff. What you see with us today, is only the top of the iceberg...
We are back in business in the USA very soon, we are developping a new strategy for that. Wait and see.
Thanks for your support, aspreciated,
God bless,
notifly
06-10-2010, 03:39 AM
I have been putting all my thoughts and experiences down on the RSA forum over the past year or more since I became a Xenon owner.
http://microlighters.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5037&sid=b3e6ce0a91039c7fbce9d535eca4881e&start=375
I have been very happy with my Xenon after 5 Magnis ! I have just placed an order with the factory for a new one and sold my present one after 170 very enjoyable hrs.
I have flown her in hot and high conditions, cold and sealevel conditions, very windy and gusty conditions over moutain ranges ... and I am very comfortable to endorse and promote this gyroplane. It really is a great machine.
My present RST was sold within an hour of advertising it.
I like what Raphael is doing to continously improve his product and I am a very happy and pro Xenon owner.
As with any of my previous craft there has been many teething problems and hassles but the fact that it has been continously addressed has led to a product which I believe can be the benchmark gyroplane in the side by side catagory.
Thought I might as well share my thoughts on the forum ! They started preparing my new cabin for spraying today !
Dmorris
06-12-2010, 05:49 PM
I'm also a very happy Xenon owner. I've flown approx 4 hours this week and loved every minute of it.
ms80831
06-19-2010, 12:24 PM
Ditto !...
Dmorris
06-26-2010, 08:50 PM
Made a quick trip to London, KY. today. Made the video with nothing but my iPhone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=V-SkniVMIic&vq=hd720
Resasi
06-27-2010, 02:47 AM
For a vid shot with a phone David I am impressed.
I have to say the Xenon is a definite turn-on for me.
How long did it take to get to destination going by that route?:)
Gyro_Kai
06-27-2010, 04:05 AM
Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing.
Kai.
ms80831
06-27-2010, 01:03 PM
David, Right pedal Right pedal, your making me dizzy.... LOL
Looks like fun, Thanks for sharing.
...Mark...
Dmorris
06-28-2010, 04:34 PM
For a vid shot with a phone David I am impressed.
I have to say the Xenon is a definite turn-on for me.
How long did it take to get to destination going by that route?:)
Based on my then current ground speed, and without a little right rudder, it would have taken approx. 6 hours but I would have "spun in" long before then due to fuel starvation.
I'm going to have to find a better system. I'm satisfied with the video quality from the Iphone and I always have it with me but trying to hold it steady and fly is not easy. I'm sure Ram-Mount has something that will work.
Resasi
06-29-2010, 02:06 AM
Yes at the moment tie wrapping is limiting, and I am sure the Xenon cabin probably won't have many places to do that.
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