Do you want to FLY / Ride at a PRA Convention? Review This Pamphlet Please

[barnstorm2]

During discussions on how to create a better understanding about how pilots can fly at the event several members suggested a brochure or pamphlet.

I have also felt the need to get information to those just wanting a ride.

I have created a DRAFT Tri-fold brochure (double sided) in hopes of getting some feedback on this idea.

Please note: THIS IS NOT PRA APPROVED MATERIALS, but simply a draft to solicit input and feasibility.

Comments are encouraged and welcome.

I know the spelling is buggered, sorry. I will correct that in time. Please let me know what you think of the content.

Thanks!!!

[RotoPlane]

I think that guide is excellent, Tim! It answered all my questions....except weight limits which can't be answered without knowing the pilot/gyro in advance. Some of us have more muscles than we need.....you see……

[Vance]

It looks good to me Tim; I don’t see anything you left out.

If I was writing it I would try to explain what they were going to learn at the pilots briefing.

In my opinion, it is a privilege to attend your briefing rather than an obligation.

I also feel that the event program should have something in it about the flight pattern and flying areas so spectators could better understand what is going on and what is expected of them.

Thank you, Vance

[PW_Plack]

Tim, aside from spelling/grammar, the only thing that struck me odd was...

"...a flight briefing DOT:"

I wondered what the Department of Transportation had to do with the briefing. If you need emphasis, I'd use italics or underline it, rather than capitalize.

Looks good!

[Aviomania]

Maybe we will decide to visit US for the convention... maybe we decide to bring a gyro with us ( i wish...) so....

What happens IF a member from abroad visits a convention in the US.... can he/she bring a foreign gyro and fly it there with foreign license? what about insurance? Can the PRA test the foreign aircraft and pilot and issue a temporary airworthiness and pilot certificate for them?

If Mentone is an international convention it means that foreign aircraft and pilots must be able to fly.

What are the current regulations?

[barnstorm2]

Maybe we will decide to visit US for the convention... maybe we decide to bring a gyro with us ( i wish...) so....

What happens IF a member from abroad visits a convention in the US.... can he/she bring a foreign gyro and fly it there with foreign license? what about insurance? Can the PRA test the foreign aircraft and pilot and issue a temporary airworthiness and pilot certificate for them?

If Mentone is an international convention it means that foreign aircraft and pilots must be able to fly.

What are the current regulations?

We did have a non-us craft and pilot a few years ago but I was not involved in the process then.

You would have to contact the FAA to find out what is need to fly in the US. I met a Canadian pilot once and he just used his Canadian lsc to fly in the US, no extra anything.

A foreign pilot certificate, indicating you are certified in Cat/Class gyros will get you a PRA PassCard.

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[dragonflyerthom]

Looks good to me Tim. I see you make the same r for a t spelling mistake I do. LOL

[Dmorris]

Tim,

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[jcarleto]

The document is very well crafted. I think it should be widely distributed for each event.

It would be good if the "Pass Card" could be something that could be setup in advance of the event. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to have all my ducks in a row before I go duck hunting.

*JC*

[Mike484]

Good job, this should be handed out to everyone entering the gate, it would prevent any confusion in the future.

[barnstorm2]

Thank you everyone!

I will fix the spelling and send it to the Mentone Airbosses and Prez for feedback and approval.

Thanks!!

[dabkb2]

Looks good Tim, but it does not say anything about ultralight pilots.

[Dean_Dolph]

Tim, it is my sense of logical progression, I guess, that suggests that items #1 & #2 be reversed in the grey block titled "To fly your aircraft as a participant at the convention........" This is no biggie and the bases have been covered but the process to get the 'dot' shows the pass card comes first. I won't lose any sleep it this isn't changed!

[barnstorm2]

Looks good Tim, but it does not say anything about ultralight pilots.

Doh! You are right! I will change that right now.


Tim, it is my sense of logical progression, I guess, that suggests that items #1 & #2 be reversed in the grey block titled "To fly your aircraft as a participant at the convention........" This is no biggie and the bases have been covered but the process to get the 'dot' shows the pass card comes first. I won't lose any sleep it this isn't changed!

Thanks for the input Dean. You kinda get your first dot and PassCard at the same time at the pilots briefing. I wanted the dot concept upfront so people don't think one briefing makes them good for the whole week.

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[All_In]

Great Job, Tim!!!
Were getting better everyday!!

[barnstorm2]

BUMP!!!

This topic came up in another thread. FYI.

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[barnstorm2]

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[Resasi]

Very professional finish. Congratulations on a great job Tim.

Nicolas I did a thread on foreign pilot certification with the FAA, it can take at least three months. (will try to find and add).
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25517&highlight=Validation+foreign+licence

As for a waiver for the overseas reg I know nothing about that but Chris (ckurz7000) will he and his friend brought their gyros over and flew them across the US.

Kevin 'Hognose' was extremely good on this sort of thing but have seen no postings from him in quite a while.

[scottessex]

Tim is it true that if you want a ride-introductory training that you must provide proof of citizenship, birth certificate, drivers license I.D. etc?
If that is true you may want to add it to the brochure, looks good.

[barnstorm2]

Very professional finish. Congratulations on a great job Tim.. Thanks~ It is still a draft, lots to fix. I will try to update this week.

Tim is it true that if you want a ride-introductory training that you must provide proof of citizenship, birth certificate, drivers license I.D. etc?
If that is true you may want to add it to the brochure, looks good.

Thanks!

Well, here is the deal (short version). TSA wants anyone ENROLLED IN A FLIGHT TRAINING PROGRAM to have their citizenship verified. Some CFI's take that to mean anyone getting any kind of training. Others don't see introductory lessons/flights as a problem as the student has not officially enrolled in any kind of program or committed to anything beyond the intro. Continued training is another mater however. I was told there was a clarification about this published but I have not found it yet.

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[barnstorm2]

Ok, here is a copy of the draft with the suggested updates and spelling corrections.

Sorry but I had to make it black and white and in a .zip file to meet the 150kb upload limit on the forum.

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