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scottessex
08-16-2004, 01:40 PM
I have some of the gyro mocked up, I have been using the old tubing to drill and make patterns for the new stuff.
Over the weekend I molested a Barbi bicycle and cut off the front wheel. Then I cut the back end off one of the kid's worn out scooters. I then took all the pieces parts and fabricated a new nose wheel.

The seat tank is held on with duct tape for the photos. :)

Chuck Irby
08-16-2004, 02:04 PM
Scott, I believe that once you get used to it, you will like that configuration a lot better than the original. It's looking very good, Scott.

I want to know how you've been thinking straight since the mishap? :D

scottessex
08-16-2004, 05:05 PM
I just hope I won't have to learn all over again! :D

Chuck Irby
08-16-2004, 06:12 PM
It won't be a big deal. Remember how quickly Screw got in the air in Ron's machine?

GyroRon
08-16-2004, 06:16 PM
looking good. Be sure to use some spring between the rudder pedals and the front fork.

scottessex
08-17-2004, 01:46 AM
I will use some springs, also I need to figure out some kind of brakes, weather or not I use a holding brake, or go with main wheel brakes, I don't know yet.

joeheli
08-18-2004, 02:28 AM
Scott. Is that the kit that Vortech sells to make any bensen a drop kill?

scottessex
08-18-2004, 03:35 AM
No, It is my interpretaion of thier kit. :) almost identical to the vortech one.

I talked to The guy at Rotorhawk, and basically I am doing the same thing. I think they charge $500, for the kit, not a bad deal. I just decided to do mine myself.
Mine will look like a Rotorhawk Falcon when I am done.

Chuck Irby
08-18-2004, 04:31 AM
Jose, I've seen Scott's work. His version will be at least as good, if not better. Yeaaaa, Scott.

scottessex
08-18-2004, 05:05 AM
Thanks Chuck, I still hope to be in the air by ROC, I am not going to get into a hurry, but that is my plan. If it is not done by then I will still go to ROC.
It is not just a rebuild but a total new machine build. So I will have a bit of time invested by the time it is done. Plus I want to paint it this time, so that will take a little longer.

Chuck Irby
08-18-2004, 05:11 AM
Scott, paint won't make it fly any better! :D

scottessex
08-18-2004, 05:35 AM
I know, but it sure corrodes less than bare metal.

Chuck Irby
08-18-2004, 05:44 AM
I have a lot of bare aluminum on my machine, and it's showing no signs of oxidation yet. Just funnin', maybe I can get you to paint mine sometime. It looks like crap, but it sure does well in the air.

scottessex
08-18-2004, 05:50 AM
Most of my plate is 2024t-3 it is stronger than 6061t-6, but it corrodes easier.
I just happen to be able to get 2024 cheaper than 6061.

You know, that aerospace scrap alloy.

joeheli
08-18-2004, 06:34 AM
Scott, Did you ask the guys in Vortech what they include on the Drop keel kit that they sell? Is really looking good! I imagine that it gives you a better stability now that is CLT. Are you goin to stay with your engine or you are goin to change it?. Now that you have room you can a 582 rotax with a 68"
carbon prop. :D

joeheli
08-18-2004, 06:46 AM
I feel sorry for you kids. NO Barbi bicycle.... NO scotter :mad: ! Is not there fault that you crash. :D

scottessex
08-18-2004, 07:21 AM
I am going to be using the Suzuki 530 with a 60" warp drive same prop, different engine.

Don't worry about the kids, they are 16 and 19 years old, they have thier own toys now. :D

The kids did help me pull the gyro out of the field after the crash. They are good kids.

This picture is from before I built my gyro, this is Rick Abercrombie's gyro.

joeheli
08-18-2004, 07:28 AM
When you yo spoke to the guys in Vortech, Did they toll you what they include on the
Drop keel kit for Bensen? I really like how it look, and I imagine that is more stable now that is CLT.

scottessex
08-18-2004, 07:33 AM
I actually called the owner of Rotorhawk up in Indiana, and talked to him. Here is what he said in the Email.

Scott,

No plans are available. We do have a "drop-keel conversion kit" that changes the Benson style machines into the more stable and user friendly center line thrust type machines. You can use most of your same parts on the machine w/o drilling more holes in the air frame etc. .cost is $495.00. Contains the main cluster plates for your mast, front & rear keels and axel.

Works great !!

Neal
Rotor Hawk

here is the email address NealFalcon@aol.com

He seems like a real nice guy.

Caribean_gyro
08-18-2004, 07:38 AM
Just by ron heron tail and you will see adiference. CLT is not the cure for all disease. I helps the pain but dont cure it once and for ever.
ChuckP

joeheli
08-18-2004, 08:07 AM
Thank you scott! Keep working and give us updates on your machine. Congrats on your new CLT Bensen gyrocopter!.And congrats you as a father,there are not to many father that raise kids the right way on this days. That is why they are good kids. I can sence you are a proud father:D!

joeheli
08-18-2004, 08:28 AM
How you are goint to run the rudder cable now that the keel is drop?

Caribean_gyro
08-18-2004, 11:58 AM
2 polease redondas arriba y 2 abajo. en forma de "Z"

joeheli
08-18-2004, 12:29 PM
Gracias Chuck.

Screw
08-18-2004, 01:05 PM
Screw-In

Great Pics, and it looks like it's comming along real good. Are still gonna go with "PHUCIA?" I think I'm having some problems of my own with my gyro, but we'll see.

Screw-Out

scottessex
08-18-2004, 05:26 PM
Jose, I am going to use 2 pulleys to run the cable. Just like I think Caribean gyro said.
Thanks for the compliment on the kids, they are good boys, my oldest one just started college.

Hey Screw, I am NOT going to paint it fucia! I will probably paint it blue, or yellow or purple, but I would never have an ORANGE gyro. Cuz then it would be like yours!

GyroRon
08-18-2004, 06:42 PM
who is going to test fly it? ;)

scottessex
08-19-2004, 01:57 AM
I don't know yet. I may take it down to Warm Springs Ga, to use thier paved runway for all the taxi stuff. I might get Rick Abercrombie to test fly it as he works with me.

Unless I have it ready to test fly at ROC. :)

Chuck Irby
08-19-2004, 03:23 AM
Scott, if you taxi till you feel good about the machine, why would you not test it yourself. Am I not thinking properly? If it was me, I would be the test pilot. So, seriously, what am I missing, here?

scottessex
08-19-2004, 04:22 AM
It should not be a problem Chuck I will probably taxi till I feel comfortable taxiing, and crow hoping. The biggest thing is the control rods adjusted properly etc. So it isn't a handfull to fly and set trim adjustments etc. I should be able to tell alot from taxiing and balancing on the main wheels.

GyroRon
08-19-2004, 04:26 AM
It is common practice in the world of homebuilt aircraft to have a more experienced person, one who can comfortably jump from ship to ship and fly it them with no problems, do your first few flights on a new machine. The builder all too often has too many things going through his mind to be able to focus on flying the machine and not being worried over trim settings and centered sticks etc....

Chuck Irby
08-19-2004, 04:41 AM
Scott, I certainly don't see a problem with that, I guess because I know how careful and meticulous you are. I adjusted mine till the rotor head was level when the stick was centered. It worked fine. I never even had to readjust them. My stick may be off center 1/2" to the right in straight flight.

Chuck Irby
08-19-2004, 04:43 AM
Okay, I see the point now, Ron. Thanks for the explanation.

stuart
08-19-2004, 06:21 AM
Hey Scott, I am really glad to see things are going well. stuart

scottessex
08-19-2004, 07:22 AM
It's coming along OK, a little slower than I would like, but I am not going to get into a hurry.

joeheli
08-26-2004, 07:23 AM
Hey scott nothing new with you machine?

scottessex
08-26-2004, 08:45 AM
I have the engine put together, except for the cylinders. The post office lost my reed valves. So I had to file a report, and re-order the reed valves, now they are on back order.

I have the seat tank mounting brackets cut, I test mounted the instument pod.

I bought a new drill press.

I'll get som more done this weekend and take some pics.

joeheli
08-26-2004, 09:13 AM
Does your reed valves was insure?. I work for the USPS in PR. Maybe I can help you ;) !

joeheli
08-26-2004, 09:14 AM
I can wait to see your machine!

scottessex
08-26-2004, 10:03 AM
The post office said they delivered the package, so it must have been stolen out of the mailbox!

joeheli
08-26-2004, 10:51 AM
So It was not insure. Becouse if it was insure they can not place the item intill you give them your signature. If they say it was deliver then the item has dilivery confirmation. Becouse that is the only way to know if it was deliver or not. Try to get
the dilivery confirmation #,So I can get the info on the Postal office computer. Email me the # if you want. If you don't know what I am talking about call the companie that send the item and ask them if they include a dilivery confirmation or any tracking so I can help you. Next time, and that is for everyone! Insure the item or just use dilivery confirmation . That is the package "licence plate" so you can track it.

GyroRon
08-26-2004, 06:35 PM
Jose, you work at the post office and yet you can't send me a stinking copy of the tape you took of me at Bensen Days?????? That is it, I don't want to be your buddy anymore!

joeheli
08-27-2004, 02:42 AM
Bro! You know that I work for the post office. I told you that I was on vacation that whend I come back I will seend you your "STUPID, FREEKING TAPE! :mad: :D :D