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08-16-2004, 02:40 PM
I have some of the gyro mocked up, I have been using the old tubing to drill and make patterns for the new stuff.
Over the weekend I molested a Barbi bicycle and cut off the front wheel. Then I cut the back end off one of the kid's worn out scooters. I then took all the pieces parts and fabricated a new nose wheel.
The seat tank is held on with duct tape for the photos. :)
08-16-2004, 03:04 PM
Scott, I believe that once you get used to it, you will like that configuration a lot better than the original. It's looking very good, Scott.
I want to know how you've been thinking straight since the mishap? :D
08-16-2004, 06:05 PM
I just hope I won't have to learn all over again! :D
08-16-2004, 07:12 PM
It won't be a big deal. Remember how quickly Screw got in the air in Ron's machine?
08-16-2004, 07:16 PM
looking good. Be sure to use some spring between the rudder pedals and the front fork.
08-17-2004, 02:46 AM
I will use some springs, also I need to figure out some kind of brakes, weather or not I use a holding brake, or go with main wheel brakes, I don't know yet.
08-18-2004, 03:28 AM
Scott. Is that the kit that Vortech sells to make any bensen a drop kill?
08-18-2004, 04:35 AM
No, It is my interpretaion of thier kit. :) almost identical to the vortech one.
I talked to The guy at Rotorhawk, and basically I am doing the same thing. I think they charge $500, for the kit, not a bad deal. I just decided to do mine myself.
Mine will look like a Rotorhawk Falcon when I am done.
08-18-2004, 05:31 AM
Jose, I've seen Scott's work. His version will be at least as good, if not better. Yeaaaa, Scott.
08-18-2004, 06:05 AM
Thanks Chuck, I still hope to be in the air by ROC, I am not going to get into a hurry, but that is my plan. If it is not done by then I will still go to ROC.
It is not just a rebuild but a total new machine build. So I will have a bit of time invested by the time it is done. Plus I want to paint it this time, so that will take a little longer.
08-18-2004, 06:11 AM
Scott, paint won't make it fly any better! :D
08-18-2004, 06:35 AM
I know, but it sure corrodes less than bare metal.
08-18-2004, 06:44 AM
I have a lot of bare aluminum on my machine, and it's showing no signs of oxidation yet. Just funnin', maybe I can get you to paint mine sometime. It looks like crap, but it sure does well in the air.
08-18-2004, 06:50 AM
Most of my plate is 2024t-3 it is stronger than 6061t-6, but it corrodes easier.
I just happen to be able to get 2024 cheaper than 6061.
You know, that aerospace scrap alloy.
08-18-2004, 07:34 AM
Scott, Did you ask the guys in Vortech what they include on the Drop keel kit that they sell? Is really looking good! I imagine that it gives you a better stability now that is CLT. Are you goin to stay with your engine or you are goin to change it?. Now that you have room you can a 582 rotax with a 68"
carbon prop. :D
08-18-2004, 07:46 AM
I feel sorry for you kids. NO Barbi bicycle.... NO scotter :mad: ! Is not there fault that you crash. :D
08-18-2004, 08:21 AM
I am going to be using the Suzuki 530 with a 60" warp drive same prop, different engine.
Don't worry about the kids, they are 16 and 19 years old, they have thier own toys now. :D
The kids did help me pull the gyro out of the field after the crash. They are good kids.
This picture is from before I built my gyro, this is Rick Abercrombie's gyro.
08-18-2004, 08:28 AM
When you yo spoke to the guys in Vortech, Did they toll you what they include on the
Drop keel kit for Bensen? I really like how it look, and I imagine that is more stable now that is CLT.
08-18-2004, 08:33 AM
I actually called the owner of Rotorhawk up in Indiana, and talked to him. Here is what he said in the Email.
No plans are available. We do have a "drop-keel conversion kit" that changes the Benson style machines into the more stable and user friendly center line thrust type machines. You can use most of your same parts on the machine w/o drilling more holes in the air frame etc. .cost is $495.00. Contains the main cluster plates for your mast, front & rear keels and axel.
Works great !!
here is the email address NealFalcon@aol.com
He seems like a real nice guy.
08-18-2004, 08:38 AM
Just by ron heron tail and you will see adiference. CLT is not the cure for all disease. I helps the pain but dont cure it once and for ever.
08-18-2004, 09:07 AM
Thank you scott! Keep working and give us updates on your machine. Congrats on your new CLT Bensen gyrocopter!.And congrats you as a father,there are not to many father that raise kids the right way on this days. That is why they are good kids. I can sence you are a proud father:D!
08-18-2004, 09:28 AM
How you are goint to run the rudder cable now that the keel is drop?
08-18-2004, 12:58 PM
2 polease redondas arriba y 2 abajo. en forma de "Z"
08-18-2004, 01:29 PM
08-18-2004, 02:05 PM
Great Pics, and it looks like it's comming along real good. Are still gonna go with "PHUCIA?" I think I'm having some problems of my own with my gyro, but we'll see.
08-18-2004, 06:26 PM
Jose, I am going to use 2 pulleys to run the cable. Just like I think Caribean gyro said.
Thanks for the compliment on the kids, they are good boys, my oldest one just started college.
Hey Screw, I am NOT going to paint it fucia! I will probably paint it blue, or yellow or purple, but I would never have an ORANGE gyro. Cuz then it would be like yours!
08-18-2004, 07:42 PM
who is going to test fly it? ;)
08-19-2004, 02:57 AM
I don't know yet. I may take it down to Warm Springs Ga, to use thier paved runway for all the taxi stuff. I might get Rick Abercrombie to test fly it as he works with me.
Unless I have it ready to test fly at ROC. :)
08-19-2004, 04:23 AM
Scott, if you taxi till you feel good about the machine, why would you not test it yourself. Am I not thinking properly? If it was me, I would be the test pilot. So, seriously, what am I missing, here?
08-19-2004, 05:22 AM
It should not be a problem Chuck I will probably taxi till I feel comfortable taxiing, and crow hoping. The biggest thing is the control rods adjusted properly etc. So it isn't a handfull to fly and set trim adjustments etc. I should be able to tell alot from taxiing and balancing on the main wheels.
08-19-2004, 05:26 AM
It is common practice in the world of homebuilt aircraft to have a more experienced person, one who can comfortably jump from ship to ship and fly it them with no problems, do your first few flights on a new machine. The builder all too often has too many things going through his mind to be able to focus on flying the machine and not being worried over trim settings and centered sticks etc....
08-19-2004, 05:41 AM
Scott, I certainly don't see a problem with that, I guess because I know how careful and meticulous you are. I adjusted mine till the rotor head was level when the stick was centered. It worked fine. I never even had to readjust them. My stick may be off center 1/2" to the right in straight flight.
08-19-2004, 05:43 AM
Okay, I see the point now, Ron. Thanks for the explanation.
08-19-2004, 07:21 AM
Hey Scott, I am really glad to see things are going well. stuart
08-19-2004, 08:22 AM
It's coming along OK, a little slower than I would like, but I am not going to get into a hurry.
08-26-2004, 08:23 AM
Hey scott nothing new with you machine?
08-26-2004, 09:45 AM
I have the engine put together, except for the cylinders. The post office lost my reed valves. So I had to file a report, and re-order the reed valves, now they are on back order.
I have the seat tank mounting brackets cut, I test mounted the instument pod.
I bought a new drill press.
I'll get som more done this weekend and take some pics.
08-26-2004, 10:13 AM
Does your reed valves was insure?. I work for the USPS in PR. Maybe I can help you ;) !
08-26-2004, 10:14 AM
I can wait to see your machine!
08-26-2004, 11:03 AM
The post office said they delivered the package, so it must have been stolen out of the mailbox!
08-26-2004, 11:51 AM
So It was not insure. Becouse if it was insure they can not place the item intill you give them your signature. If they say it was deliver then the item has dilivery confirmation. Becouse that is the only way to know if it was deliver or not. Try to get
the dilivery confirmation #,So I can get the info on the Postal office computer. Email me the # if you want. If you don't know what I am talking about call the companie that send the item and ask them if they include a dilivery confirmation or any tracking so I can help you. Next time, and that is for everyone! Insure the item or just use dilivery confirmation . That is the package "licence plate" so you can track it.
08-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Jose, you work at the post office and yet you can't send me a stinking copy of the tape you took of me at Bensen Days?????? That is it, I don't want to be your buddy anymore!
08-27-2004, 03:42 AM
Bro! You know that I work for the post office. I told you that I was on vacation that whend I come back I will seend you your "STUPID, FREEKING TAPE! :mad: :D :D
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