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Gyro_Kai
10-29-2008, 03:46 AM
Last weekend I had the opportunity to get my first ride in a Xenon. All I can say is:

Wow!

http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50666&stc=1&d=1225280563
Let’s start with the only 2 downsides:
For start and climb-out a few more horses would be great.
Due to the weight-limitations in Germany the only approved model is the 100 hp 912ULS version but I know there are some serious weight saving initiatives going on at Celiers.
Secondly the rotor break could be more effective.

But then:
Fantastic comfort and heated cabin. A completely different experience.

The view is awesome, because you do not have the cockpit and in MT03 the half-fuselage blocking out everything in front below you.
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50667&stc=1&d=1225280563
The smooth and quiet ride is great. What really surprised me was, how little stick-shake there is. You could have put a drink (small) on the stick and it would stay there. When you let go of the stick it is wonderfully stable, flying in a straight line without interaction.
The rudder is very effective and must be used with caution. It will give you all you need in a x-wind-landing.
The reaction to any controls movement is prompt as you may expect.
The cockpit is well positioned, well sorted, even has lights. The pre-rotator-throttle combo works with ease. The trim, the little rope in front, first made me a bit nervous, but even without trim there is very little holding-force needed. The string gives you very good control over the trim.
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50668&stc=1&d=1225280563
This model also has an Ivoprop adjustable prop, which further increased performance and comfort. We were flying 140 kph (88 mph) easily, and could go to almost 160 kph (100mph), all GPS speeds.

I made a lousy duckwalk landing but the wide stance and good suspension of the main gear was forgiving. Have to better adjust to the sideways seating.

Congratulations to Raphael, this is really a great design. Did I mention the baggage compartment behind the seats and the arm rest glove-box?

http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=50669&stc=1&d=1225280563

Kai.

Dmorris
10-29-2008, 04:51 AM
Beautiful Xenon! How many hours on it?

Gyro_Kai
10-29-2008, 05:57 AM
About 30. Brand new, so to say.

The owner is now stable again and still talks to me after my ballet landing. :-)

Kai

RotorTom
10-29-2008, 06:56 AM
Now you know why we Xenon owners always have smiles on our faces! By the way ... the Turbo version gives you a lot more power!

Gyro_Kai
10-29-2008, 08:04 AM
... By the way ... the Turbo version gives you a lot more power!

Yea, go-on, go-on keep poking into the sore with a pointy stick! :D

Kai.

barnstorm2
10-29-2008, 08:15 AM
GREAT photos and info!

I would love to have a Xenon.

.

Timchick
10-29-2008, 06:14 PM
What's the price difference between the Xenon and the new enclosed Magni?

Gyro_Kai
10-29-2008, 10:29 PM
GREAT photos and info!

I would love to have a Xenon.

.

Hi Tim,

thanks. Yes, me too, I'll try to catch many rides with my friend and get a rating on it. I see this to be the coming thing on the European market. I hope the weight issue is going to get fixed soon.

Kai.

Gyro_Kai
10-29-2008, 10:37 PM
What's the price difference between the Xenon and the new enclosed Magni?

Hi Tim (many Tims around here :)),

There is no official price out for the Magni M24. The first rumors were talking about 70 000 Euros base price. The Xenon is priced here with 66 000 Euros, 56 000 + VAT with 912 ULS engine but the Magni seems to be only available with 914 motor, which already makes a difference in value of almost 10 000 E.
So I guess we have to wait for actual figures from Magni.

btw. the price of Euros has dropped from $1.65 to $1.25. Bad news for travelling Europeans but good news for US buyers of Xenons, Magnis, Rotax' and other European products. :D

Kai.

troed@aon.at
10-30-2008, 12:46 AM
Price for the Magni M24 officially is 64.000.- € excl. VAT ready to fly

Angelo

bones
10-30-2008, 01:03 AM
btw. the price of Euros has dropped from $1.65 to $1.25. Bad news for travelling Europeans but good news for US buyers of Xenons, Magnis, Rotax' and other European products. :D
Kai.

Not so here is the land of Oz, currently the Euro is about $0.48 Oz, so what ever price it is over there double it and then some, it all started because of do gooders wanting to please every one even those not prepared to get off their butts and earn it.

Xenon-designer
11-10-2008, 06:12 AM
Hello mister Gyro Kai,

Thanks for your comments, yes in Germany we are limited due to weight limitations. But, yes also we are now proposing the full carbon option, saves 15 kilos... plenty enough for a turbo version without too many options.
Come visit us at the factory.
We wish you beautifull nice flights on Xenon.

Xenon-designer
11-10-2008, 06:13 AM
Message for Angelo,

I am trying since a while to reach you by phone, could you please email me on private, maybe you have changed phone number.
Kindly,

Resasi
11-10-2008, 06:54 AM
Raphael, had not forgotten your question about the changes in Aviation legislation down in Kenya. Arrived on weekend and began enquiries today with a friend who runs a large aviation operation and has good contacts.

Not great news. Initial legislation recently done has been on a treaty between Kenya Uganda and Tanzania, the old East African Community which all previously used the British CAA and DCA rules and regs. The new lot have hit a multitude of problems and are being coped with on an ad hoc basis.

There has been a recent ICAO audit done and concern expressed. It is still an idea of mine to try and bring a Xenon down eventualy but will be testing the water with a small single to begin with. Present group of Magnis keep a fairly low profile for the time being.

Xenon-designer
11-19-2008, 11:17 AM
Hello mister Resasi,

please contact me at the factory, i have some news to share with you.
Kindly,

Resasi
11-21-2008, 01:32 PM
Raphael have only just managed to get online again. Africa. Will contact you as soon as I get back in Jan or sooner if internet contact improves.

Dmorris
12-22-2008, 06:29 PM
May want to sell my Xenon 914. 75 Hours and absolutley nothing wrong wth it. If I sell I want to go back to an ultimate open frame with a 912. Pobably a Dom. or a Butterfly.
I feel pretty stupid for even considering selling my ship but I have done it three times before. If interested in more info. send pe a pm.