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Hognose
08-30-2008, 07:57 AM
Guys,

I am not a big video guy but sometimes it's the best way to communicate something. Especially something that moves, like aircraft, their component parts, and the people who enjoy them.

Some of you will look at this list and say, "well, duh." But some videos out there, even with interesting content, are dreadful. Example (this is a vid recently posted of a McCullough J2):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bse3k3Xoi0

That video violates every one of these rules:


Use a real video camera, not a cheesy digital camera that "also shoots video." A friend or relative already has one, most likely -- check with people who have had babies recently!
Use a TRIPOD. Tripods are dirt cheap and hold the camera steadier than you can, unless you too are dead and made of metal.
Clean your lens. A spot that stays in the center of the video distracts viewers.
Get close enough to the subject that it shows up. Yes, this is a problem if you already violated Rules #1 and #2 above. Honest, people don't want to watch a space in the sky where the guy that made the video remembers an aircraft having been.
Closely related: focus.
Edit the video. Yes, even pros occasionally shoot their sneakers or the ground, but they know better than to show that shot in public.
Sound is vital to good video. That means you have to record it right, which means shielding the mic from wind and/or using an external mic with a wind guard.
If you're trying to sell something with the video, or doing something that ought to be explained, consider using a pro-style narration, or titles.
Two or three guys yucking it up behind the camera are usually not as funny to users who don't know them than they are to their friends.


I don't really mean to rag on the guy that posted the video to YouTube. I hope his J2 finds a new home, and the video helps in that it shows that the thing is safely flying. He missed the chance to be a far more effective sales tool. Compare this amateur video, which was the first one on the list of related videos to that last one. Yes, he still violates some of the rules, but many fewer, and as a result the video is easier to watch even though it shows much less (just a Xenon taxiing out, spinning up, and taking off):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOI6pgtsmlQ

Finally, compare to a professional video. Here's Dennis Fetters's original Air Command 447 promo video. The video is old and deteriorated but there are very very few rules violations there. Many people who saw this video for the first time were inspired to buy a kit from Dennis (for those who didn't, he made a couple of bucks off the videos).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuHR1Eet3w

All the shots are off a steady platform like a tripod. There's no extraneous or distracting audio. The subject of the video is in focus, takes up most of the screen real estate, and there are no distracting artifacts.

Watching both parts of Dennis's excellent video makes me realize three more things:


Shoot like people will be watching your video through a glass of beer, because that's what age will do to videotape, and YouTube's low resolution & heavy compression will do to anything.

Working from a script (even if it's just a list of planned shots) ensures that your "show" will tell a consistent, coherent story and not miss any points you want to make.

Have someone else check your spelling and grammar on any titles. Nuff said.


Yeah, he had professional help on this one, but the basic difference between an amateur and a professional is only that the latter gets paid: there's no reason you can't lift some of the pro's techniques.

Hope this is helpful, and not taken as a an attack on the first video. I'd like to see everybody working up to the standard Dennis set -- 25 years ago!

cheers

-=K=-

EI-GYRO
08-30-2008, 11:14 AM
But you need to keep the tripod well lubricated to avoid jerky movement.
Also not TOO much zoom.

as in; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCahT7ZotKM

EI-GYRO
08-30-2008, 11:26 AM
This one could have been really good with a better edit.
And a better camera on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtfc7SbdQZ4

I'm a big fan of inflight video, and I find most of them educational, so I criticise with
the best of intentions.

Phil_Ruffin
08-30-2008, 05:20 PM
I like to watch all the videos, whether professional quality or done with a cheezy digital still camera that shoots videos.

I'll watch it once and if doesn't I crank my tractor then I won't watch it again. But I would hate for people to stop posting their videos because they don't have professional video equipment or a special film making flare about them.

If your trying to sell a gyro or something then yeah, you might want to do the best you can or seek help. But if your just flying around I say keep em coming no matter what you use.

Hognose
08-30-2008, 05:54 PM
Yeah, Phil, thanks for that.

I don't want people to stop posting videos... I want the same guys to up their game, that's all. I hope for and expect constructive criticism from all y'all (like your comments here) and looking back, I could have been more helpful and less sarcastic in my post.

I was trying to keep it light and funny, but I see now how it could turn somebody off of posting his video because it's "not good enough." Like Fergus's, my criticism is well-meant!

I also thought I was a bit presumptuous to post these hints when there are actual pro video guys (like Shawn) who are members of the forum.

Video's going to get even more common. The next-gen Nikon DSLR will shoot video. HD video, no less. Right now, nobody except pros has video cameras with interchangeable lenses -- this is going to be big.

cheers

-=K=-

All_In
08-31-2008, 07:33 AM
Good thread!!!!

I'd like this in the mag's Kevin too. You got a lot more to offer than just the Reg's editor buddy!!!

When Rob gets back from his adventure, bet he grabs this!!!

jcarleto
08-31-2008, 08:15 AM
All my videos suck. They violate most of the rules of zoom, focus and earthquake (no tripod). But I think the content has some value for newbies (such as myself). As such, I put them out there (after some editing out of the shots of feet and blanks sky (for the most part) on the premise that any video is better than no video. I appreciate that there could be an argument for both sides of that.

It is frequently difficult to find a volunteer (victum) willing to go out and watch someone else learning to fly. It's really pretty boring stuff for the folks on the ground. Asking for such a participant to contribute by filming is adding work to the effort. It's not surprising that a lot of the videos are shot by rank amateurs with little skill.

I try to find the value in all the videos I see. Certainly, I appreciate the professionally shot efforts and those from people who enjoy film-making. I'd prefer not to see shots of bystander's feet and empty sky, but sometimes those videos have the most interesting content hidden in the mess.

Bottom line...I like them all...shoot anything...shoot everything...great video is a bonus....but don't stop shooting because someone might not like the presentation...I'll watch it!

*JC*

All_In
08-31-2008, 08:35 AM
Oh no JC ALWAYS put them out there guys!!

Kevin's solely teaching us how to be better at it!

Shooting or trying anything in life is always better than doing nothing!!!

Friendly
08-31-2008, 12:03 PM
Kevin,
you are right but recording a gyro with all of its movement is hard enough. Usually the person on the ground recording is not a gyro pilot. Your criticism is well taken. I am guilty of all of the above. My son friend took some video of me while he was riding a 4 wheeler back-wards. I posted it and it shakes more than a man of loose morals in church. My son was proud his his video even though it shakes. Dirty lens, guilty, no tripod guilty,music too loud, guilty. Cutting a lot of bad footage out, not guilty. I just don't have a good video to post. Its hard to get your camera man, woman or child to know what it is your are trying to capture. I do like to watch other peoples video to learn to fly better and video better.

EI-GYRO
08-31-2008, 02:42 PM
My inflight videos were taken mainly for my own education.
I figured I could learn more from replaying my flights on video, than
racking up tons of hours til I was relaxed enough to take in a lot of
detail in flight. This has paid off well. I've learned a lot.
I just put some of it up on Youtube for other folks entertainment, and maybe to
show off a little.
So I didnt set out to make videos as such.
However, I did take the trouble to edit most of the garbage and leave the segments
long enough to take in what you are looking at, even if its fuzzy or shaky.
Thats about all I ask from others.
I certainly dont want to discourage folks from putting up videos, as most are either
entertaining or useful to some degree.

Maybe I should just shut up now.

Cheers.