Videos on PRA TV

[Timchick]

Hi guys. We're slowly building up the video database for the PRA TV page. People have been submitting videos and I've been adding them in.

What kind of videos do you guys want to see? Do we want to include videos of RC autogiros or just full scale flyable gyros? I'd like to get some opinions. If we add them I can clearly label them as RC videos.

Temp site: http://www.usedjewelry.net/PRA_TV.asp

[greg spicola]

I vote No RC stuff Tim,Reel Gyros only.
just my 2cents :D

Good Job on the site! :peace:

[All_In]

I'm not going to vote!

But more good news regarding PRA-TV.

Got an email for Iven Connary today and he is putting a link to PRA-TV on PRA's website so traciffic can be initiated from there.

And I got a phone call from Rick Marshall the Vice Pres of PRA and in charge of finding the webmaster.

We have hit one small snag. Iven informed me that it's a Lynx Server and says it won't run .ASP (windows software) so can't be published to their current Internet provider.

This only means a small delay as once I get 1 page of PRA's source .PHP I can test it on my windows server should run both.

If it runs then we will move PRA's site and be done.

If not then it would be much easier to re-write can clone PPA site to windows and most of it is just text and links to other pages of text. Should take less than a few days to clone.

I'm not voting, mine you, but I do agree with Greg.

Never could keep my mouth shut!

PS: Just In case you don't know what the heck we are talking about.

Here's a link to PRA-TV:

http://www.usedjewelry.net/PRA_TV.asp

[Riff Raf]

Real Gyros only please.
PRA TV is Awesome, Thanks to all :D

[All_In]

Real Gyros only please.
PRA TV is Awesome, Thanks to all :D

Thanks!

Hey I just saw Stan Foster take off in his SharrowHawk, it's the second one on the list right now!

[All_In]

Hey Stan!
Right now there is a turbine Helicycle that is the 2nd one on the selection list, check out what your new ride will look and sound like one more time!
http://www.usedjewelry.net/PRA_TV.asp

PS:
It won't be 2nd on this list for long as Tim is importing another 19 videos, so hurry. He's quick!

[All_In]

Stan to find your video just click the Pilot listbox and click on you Stan Foster. Then click the Select button to find it.

To find the turbine Helicycle:
Click the Model listbox and click on Mosquito XET and then click the Selct button to find it.

I think that's the same one you're building?

[GyroDoug]

I vote to limit the Video to full scale models. I am not against a video of a UAV, but the small scale models are really a whole different sport and I would think would be better served by having a separate site.

Gyro Doug

[StanFoster]

John: I must have read my plans wrong....my Helicycle looks a lot different than a Mosquito!

Stan

[All_In]

John: I must have read my plans wrong....my Helicycle looks a lot different than a Mosquito!

Stan
Show you how little I know!!!!

[enewbold]

We have hit one small snag. Iven informed me that it's a Lynx Server and says it won't run .ASP (windows software) so can't be published to their current Internet provider.

This only means a small delay as once I get 1 page of PRA's source .PHP I can test it on my windows server should run both.

BTW, I'm a PHP coder (all my pages are on a Linux server too), so if you need any coding help, let me know.

Cheers,
Ed

[All_In]

BTW, I'm a PHP coder (all my pages are on a Linux server too), so if you need any coding help, let me know.

Cheers,
EdYou are the man!!!

Thanks all help gratefully accepted, between the two of us we should rock-the-site!
I'll PM you!

[All_In]

John: I must have read my plans wrong....my Helicycle looks a lot different than a Mosquito!

StanI misspoke!

It record # (130)
Pilot: Unknown, Date:9/23/2006, Type:Flight

Make:Eagle R&D, Model:Helicycle

Event:Unknown , Location:French Valley, CA. USA

Videographer:Unknown

If you click on Make listbox and scroll down to Eagle R&D and click Search button it will display the only Helicycle a Turbine. Anyway though you might enjoy seeing and hearing it.

[iconnary]

I've been looking into ways to get John's video index onto the PRA website, but unfortunately it is written in ASP (a Microsoft language), which will not play well in the PRA website environment (a Linux/Apache machine).

Migrating the entire PRA website to a Windows machine just for this video content is going to be hard to justify. Greg Gremminger and I recently spent the better part of 3 months re-implementing the current site and we'd likely face major work again moving it to Windows. Furthermore, the PRA is currently getting a free ride on a high-end dedicated server, hosted at a real datacenter (you're welcome PRA :)).

The current PRA site was not written from the ground up by us, but rather it makes use of a popular Content Management System (CMS). It provides the framework and page management, and we just provide the content. This particular CMS has a huge following and there are many free add-on components available for it.

I found a video indexing component for our CMS that does most of what John's work does. It doesn't offer the granularity that John's does as far as searching on specific video attributes (make/model/pilot/etc), but does allow free text searches on all fields in the original YouTube video entry.

I've set it up for a trial on the PRA site and have imported a good number of the gyro videos John has on his. You can get to it by clicking the Media menu option on the left-hand menu, or by just clicking here (http://www.pra.org/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=112).

The only other alternative here is to rewrite John's page in PHP. I suspect there are at least a few forum members qualified to help, and I'd be more than happy to lend a hand. I don't think it should take more than a week of effort.

[Timchick]

Iven, Can the video window playing the video be made larger without doing the full screen thing?

[iconnary]

Most of the settings are configurable. I just increased the video size a good bit, let me know what you think.

[All_In]

Hi
Iven
It's looks good. It's about the same as YouTube and all the other sites.
The reason for writing the advance search engine in the first place was to out compete the other sites and draw people to PRA's site because of the ease of finding exactly what you are looking for right down to the make and pilot and date of flight.

Saving people time is the only real advantage a web page can offer and often its major draw!!

Also the automated advertising display and maintenance programs creates increase circulation and real value to present and future advertising customers of our magazine helping attract new advertisers. The database and YouTube display portion only took 20 minuets to write and debug. The Advertising and auto photo sizing and placing on the page portion and maintenance programs took 3.75 hours to write. But it's these APS maintenance programs that automate the page so you don't have to cut and paste photos by hand to the page ever and our customers are able to upload ad's and maintain their own copy without any PRA labor forever. That is the real power behind PRA-TV. It's not just another YouTube display program it's so much more that I have already had over 50 offers to purchase it as they recognize It's power to draw people away from YouTube and sites like it.

I won't sell PRA-TV until PRA is known for having the most advance YouTube search engine on the net or you decide you don't wish to use it.

PTA-TV is only the tip of the iceberg. It's part of a complete business plan with store front auto newletters for all chapters, Event auto press releases and emails, Auto vollenteer Labor sigup sheet and email reminders for these Events and much more that requires approximately 5 major marketing and management suites of 5 to 6 programs each.
This would require tens of thousands of lines of code ported over to PHP and you would never gain all the power you have with ASP! Especially as I can cut and paste 30 years of business software libraries that is already doing the same type of things that PRA needs to automate.

For all of these reasons, and the fact that I have 70% of the entire PRA package finished and the whole thing could be running in two weeks, including porting the PRA PHP pages to a new IP, think we might want to consider the following:
IF we try to write a complete accounting and marketing package it should take us Oh about 3 to 5 years in any other language. (Been writing these business suites since 1984)
But it would be a more modern looking program, however I don't believe anyone here can donate that much full time so it would take much longer. I believe this is why we don't have it now?
What do you think?

Think it would be much better to just move it to a windows IP that runs both PHP and ASP with much less labor and become automated and making a profit sooner?

PS:
Note:
Only very experienced programmers could have even written PRA-TV and if they had it would have taken them at least 60+ hours without my libraries.
Business and programming experience and libraries really make a difference in bringing a professional product to market in months instead of years as when I first stated programming!

[Timchick]

If John hadn't come along and shown us a great way to have a video page I think the way Iven did it on the PRA site would've been great. But, I have to agree with John about the advanced search capabilities his site offers. When I add videos to the database I try to add as much info as possible, ie make, model, pilot, etc. A lot of that info isn't listed with the videos on youtube. Therefore, if someone wants to search for videos for a specific model, etc. it's easier on John's site. John's put a lot of time into making his database site work. Before he puts a lot more work into it I think we need to decide if it will be used.

[Riff Raf]

I have already had over 50 offers to purchase it
So what happens to all the work that all the rotorheads (we) put in to the links?

[All_In]

I have already had over 50 offers to purchase it
So what happens to all the work that all the rotorheads (we) put in to the links?
These offers are from totally different vertical markets and are offers to buy the program, not the data. The database is PRA's and is not for sale at any price. I don't consider the data mine!

Examples of types of folks wanting to use it for different category of YouTube videos: RC model, pets, an international major motorcycle co, robots, private school for teaching history, automotive part store chain, a nudist colony:D, and many more..

PS:
I wish I could show you all the entire suite of maintenance programs like the one that Tim is using to automatically imports your links. We really have made it automatic and effortless to add, import, find and change anything forever!

[iconnary]

If John hadn't come along and shown us a great way to have a video page I think the way Iven did it on the PRA site would've been great. But, I have to agree with John about the advanced search capabilities his site offers. When I add videos to the database I try to add as much info as possible, ie make, model, pilot, etc. A lot of that info isn't listed with the videos on youtube.

Agreed, the ability to specify additional video information (pilot/make/model/etc) and then search on those attributes is a big plus.

So ... I spent a few hours this weekend and coded up a similar video archive application in PHP. It allows searching on all the same fields as John's page. Video data is stored in a MySQL database, and the front-end pulls down data via AJAX so everything is loaded dynamically without having to submit forms or refresh your browser. I haven't written a video submission form yet, but that should get done in the next few days provided work/life doesn't get in the way.

You can get to it from the left-hand nav menu on the PRA site under Media->Video Archive, or just click here : http://www.pra.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=115

As of yet I've only entered a small handful of the videos people submitted to John's page. Entering them all in by hand is going to be tedious. John, do you think I could get a dump of your database to import on the PRA site?

Thanks
Iven

[Timchick]

Looks very good Iven. That's a big improvement over the previous layout. Now we're getting somewhere.

[All_In]

Iven you can have anything I have as I'm just truly trying to help PRA, let me know how you want it.
You might want the entire database when finished as there are now over 40 programs in PRA's Suite.
When can we expect the hard part of the program; the advertisement display and it's three maintenance programs so we can attract more advertisers and become profitable?

I too have been hard at work over the past 3 days I have written the following programs and have added them to PRA's automated suite.

1) Member program menu
2) PRA employee's program menu
3) Log-in form
4) Log-out form
5) New member registration from
6) Member maintenance
7) Customer maintenance
8) Inventory maintenance
9) Sales maintenance
10) Sales by category Storefront program
11) Customer's "My Account" page showing current and past sales and the shipping status.
12) Customer sales return form
13) Shipping and Costs
14) Employee's shipment Form
15) Event Maintenance
16) Event Schedule Maintenance
17) Event Labor Task assignment maintenance
18) Event member volunteer labor sign-up sheet
19) Event auto emailing to members and press release mailing program with auto information PAGE and auto newsletter postings to all chapters.
20) Can’t remember off the top of my head

Open House will be announced today and I suspect the entire suite will be finished by next Monday and the Mentone event's emailing announcing and volunteer labor sign-up sheet could be tried out this year, I’m just testing it now.

There are only two more suites to write (12 programs) that's only a few days work for me. But the debugging may take another week or two.

My thinking is to just get automated as soon a possible!!

Move the site for a few months until we can re-write it in it's final pretty from as this is just a skeleton (frame work) subject to great change and I'm just learning web-programming and Ajax, Silverlight, and Dreamweaver while programming PRA's suite at the same time so once PRA is automated I can help re-write it with the best tools available.

This is what I’m going to recommend to the BOD as this will make us automated and profitable much sooner than re-writing it all for PHP first!

The user’s of any program really aren’t going to care what language it’s written in or who hosts the site they just want it all and they want it yesterday.

I look forward to working with you in making PRA the most automated site in the world!

[iconnary]

John, the content management system the current PRA site runs already provides just about everything you've listed here and a whole lot more. The appeal to using this CMS is that it is a free community open-source project, is maintained by hundreds of developers, and runs on literally thousands of other websites. This is a much more desirable route than running the site on one-off custom code that only one guy knows how to maintain, who may or may not be around for the long-haul.

Once set up the CMS doesn't require any special developer skills to operate and maintain. All new content, configuration, articles, events, etc can be supplied using the web administration interface, rather than editing files on the server. The idea here is that certain members of the community would be given access rights to publish new content on their own, and not require them to have any special coding skills to do this.

Greg and I spent quite a bit of time migrating the site to this CMS specifically so that we'd get all these things for free.

Banner ads can be enabled on every page throughout current site with a few button clicks. The CMS has built-in support for all the major online advertising resellers - Adsense, DoubleClick, etc. The reason this isn't currently enabled is because the board hasn't made the call yet as to whether we want to clutter the site with advertisements.

There are also plans for a members-only section with special content only available to members. The CMS has native support for this as well, but the challenge has been to get the existing PRA members database online (currently an MS-Access database) in a form that allows new user registration/renewal/expiration to be directly tied to the website user database. This way we wouldn't have two member databases to maintain - one for the PRA administration and another for the website. I started this project last year and am about 90% complete with it, but haven't had time recently to finish it.

Your enthusiasm and desire to contribute here is to be applauded -- the PRA would be in a much better place if we had more members like you. But you really need to slow down and ask some questions before you start racing off with these projects. You would have found that most of what you're working on is already done. What we really need here are people to help with the existing website, rather than start a new parallel effort.

If you want to help, a good place to start is learn how to use the content management system the site runs. Its called Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/). There's a huge amount of documentation and examples available on their site and others, and I'll be glad to help you with anything I can.

[All_In]

I'm sorry Iven. I thought you knew!
I was told they were looking for a Webmaster and Rick asked me to become it and I accepted. I already have been given permission to automate the site.
I'm just doing my job as fast as I can, to show the BOD something and let them all decide how to best become profitable.
I didn't try and use what I don't know (CMS), because I have learned the quickest way to success is create the (whole) infant from what I do know and work on it over a lifetime until perfect!
Don't plan on loosing any of the efforts so far that would be foolish as well. Think having a CMS site is fine just don't want to wait the 2 years it would probably take to choose and modify this huge library of CSM source to get the same control and automation as we could have this month.

I will look at CSM and joomla, thank you. Now I know what it is.

Thanks

[All_In]

To Iven and All!

There seems to be some misunderstandings as to if were scrapping the current site and or the direction we are going and valid concerns expressed over my disappearing.
Were are not scrapping anything we are just adding to it with a different look, for a year or so, to the member’s only section and mostly the employees only programs.

I would like to bring everything you have partly completed that can be brought online in a two-week period without duplicating my labor and use yours whenever time permits!

I would like to divide and concur and work on both halves of the problem at the same time. I have volunteers to help finish your CMS programs that you have waiting in the wings unfinished and I will learn how to also.

If we can help you get the unfinished software done in two weeks or less PLEASE LIST what you need help with and we’ll start looking for volunteers. (This is another reason we need the auto email labor request program I just wrote; running yesterday.)

I will disappear for months at a time, and by end of September because have boat will travel. But most marinas all over the world have wireless!

Understand all of the ASP pages I’ve written are CSM type program’s! This is really called “Dynamic Programming” and in business we have been doing this way before the web first started! The ASP Maintenance programs provide “CSM” by allowing the user to modify the content so even if I disappear the maintenance programs once written and verified by a member like Tim Chick and he tells you it runs effortlessly there is no need to modify the program again. Tim or any other users modifies the data and therefore the WebPage automatically forever.

Software is much like an aircraft, in it is hard to build. But once built it will serve it purpose forever! The future modifications will be to move it over to your current CSM site.

Remember nothing of yours or Greg’s is lost I will make every effort to use every bit of your work that is even close to running but lets not waste time trying to copy PRA-TV as it’s already running and serving it’s purpose and it’s easy to port this over to windows Ajax which will run on Lynx when we move it back!

I hope we can all work together for the betterment of PRA and our sport!

[All_In]

I hope this link will help explain why the rush!
Many of the members, BOD, and I are on more of a mission than just to create the perfect Website and to try make PRA into what it could be.
This is a years task that I'm going to complete before I leave in September!

It's all part of a business outline explained here:
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17023

If I can keep working 20 hour days no problem! Yeah right! There seems to always be a problem, doesn't there, or someone or something trying to stop us?

[iconnary]

John, please get in touch with the PRA board before you go too much further with this.

I've been in very recent contact with Rick Marshall and Greg Gremminger and I can assure you that the plan is, and always has been, to use the existing content management system on the PRA website.

The ideas you've outlined here are all great ideas, many of which have been long-standing PRA goals. The current CMS was chosen specifically because it allows us to accomplish all of those things with a minimum of effort.

Please give Rick Marshall a call. There is an existing plan for the website, and the best (and only) way you can make a lasting contribution to the PRA is if you operate within that plan.

I don't want this to become a public Iven vs. John dispute, because it isn't that. Everyone wants your involvement in this project, but you need to slow down and get on the same page as the rest of the team.

[All_In]

John, please get in touch with the PRA board before you go too much further with this.

I've been in very recent contact with Rick Marshall and Greg Gremminger and I can assure you that the plan is, and always has been, to use the existing content management system on the PRA website.

The ideas you've outlined here are all great ideas, many of which have been long-standing PRA goals. The current CMS was chosen specifically because it allows us to accomplish all of those things with a minimum of effort.

Please give Rick Marshall a call. There is an existing plan for the website, and the best (and only) way you can make a lasting contribution to the PRA is if you operate within that plan.

I don't want this to become a public Iven vs. John dispute, because it isn't that. Everyone wants your involvement in this project, but you need to slow down and get on the same page as the rest of the team.

Thanks Iven!
I'll email this to Rick and have him call me!

PS:
I wish you would just call me too!

[All_In]

Also don't worry about going forward with the solution. As I have made contingency plans to provide this to San Diego's Chapter to host for all the other chapters that want it now, unless there is a faster way to bring this online that you’re not sharing with us?

[All_In]

Well Iven if you won't call me or answer my PM's. I guess we have to make this public!

[All_In]

I’m have a hard time understanding how using a different package as a temporary solution causes any problems for you at all? Are you going to insist that we re-write all packages like the eZine software and Forum solution or just mine?

But from my observation’s of you coping PRA-TV it takes 10 or 20 times as long to write a small part of it in CSM. As it took me only 4 hours to write it in ASP, I don’t believe I could write it any faster than you in CSM either.
This means years of work ahead of us before we can turn a profit?
What am I missing?

[Gyro_Kai]

Please, John and Ivan,

Don't get into a p**ing contest. You are both doing great work.

There are good reasons for using a standard CMS over taylor made code, as there are good reasons for the other way around. No-one should try to degrade the other guy's good work. Please try to come to terms.

Imagine what you can move by joining forces.

Kai.

[All_In]

Don’t misunderstand I’m not upset at all. I’m panic stricken, as I know it will take me months if not years working full time to accomplish the same end results in CMS.
I spent 4 hours looking at examples on joomla. For a programmer this is a giant step backwards in control and productivity, it’s just easier for a layperson to use so I can’t understand why we need to wait so long?

Tanks Kai for being a peace maker.
I want to work for Iven. I just was hoping to only have to work full time for a month or so and then take our time to re-write it over years.

[All_In]

OK poor Rick and now Greg I’d hate to be in the middle this if I wasn’t an expert in computers.
Seems I have little history or credibility with PRA or the gyro community so I have been asked to slow down as they not sure the software will really work or it will be to hard to teach to the next volunteer. This makes since if you didn’t know me or haven’t seen the automated programs. They have had trouble with people promising what they cannot deliver and leaving the site a mess.

The only real bummer is that Greg has just asked me not to share the Open House with all of you as the BOD may not go alone with all of the automation or ideas.

So PRA has been officially slowed downed.

I have been asked to help with what Iven needs done.
What Iven is looking for is a “Content manager not a Webmaster! This would be someone who could cut and paste new FAA regulations and other written text into a Joomla maintenance program that would display the new content to the page.

We need someone to step up who has experience with word processing type skills. To be a Content Manager, very easy anyone could do it that has time! My skills would be wasted here, so we need one of you to post here and or PM Iven (not me) he will select them. Please help!

The only other thing that Greg knew Iven as ask help with is transferring the data from the PRA database into Iven’s complete database and or format. No problem already told Greg this is right up my alley and have volunteered. That ought to keep me out of mischief for a while.

Thanks guys for all the postings, PM’s, and phone calls we are still moving forward if we can help Iven all we can!

[StanFoster]

John: As I told you over the phone...this is just why I am requesting you to attend Mentone and make a case for your excellent work. We have a real prize with you hopping aboard...and I dont want you rained on just because you are new here. I am not even close to being smart enough to understand the stuff you are doing...but I am smart enough to see if I can access what you have done...anyone can. You need to present your case in person...and I will personally see that you get some time to present your case at our board meeting. Guys with your enthusiasm dont come along very often.

Stan

[All_In]

Stan
Thank you so much. Nothing has changed but the time frame and the new priorities that Iven wants done now! Just awaiting marching orders. I really want to just help and perhaps I can earn some credibility with him too.
I disagree about your being smart! You were the first BOD member that recognized the power of these tools and actually talked to me about exploring all of this and is still in there helping by setting up the opportunity to at least try. Way to empower, encourage, and direct you are more responsible for my helping than anyone else!
And Now your new project of bringing PRA group insurance to us all, well your almost becoming a legend in your own time, if the company is just what they say they are and you have everybody checking that it is too!!!
Truly great job Stan! I will help anyway I can just let me know!

[StanFoster]

John: Thanks! Even if this insurance company doesnt pan out...and I get egg on my face...its better than not trying at all! I am thinking that at the least we will have a good liability policy ...and that seems to be what most want anyway. Again..time will tell...and I am on this like a diaper on a babys butt!


Stan

[Riff Raf]

I don’t want you rained on just because you are new here. I am not even close to being smart enough to understand the stuff you are doing...but I am smart enough to see if I can access what you have done...anyone can.
John this is the most excited I’ve seen the rotor heads in a year or so (YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN!) Thank you

You need to present your case in person...and I will personally see that you get some time to present your case at our board meeting. Guys with your enthusiasm don’t come along very often.

What Case?? They need to pull out from thier cranial recto sis.
If they (The old dudes) want to sit on their hands and wait for new members to come on board, (Good Luck with that) Gyro’s could die.
Keep it rolling John.

Fresh blood and new adventures, that’s what happens as the years go by. But experience is always a good thing.
Thanks again John

[All_In]

OK got the official request for help for Greg.

Here what we need yesterday! I will help with the programming and I think Ed will help also.

I need one of you for 1) everything else I'll volunteer to do.
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We have (Rick Marshall has) been looking for two persons for the PRA website:

A Content Manager - webmaster, to keep up announcements, articles updated, events, links, and all the Categories and Sections maintained. Highest priority!!!!!
Programmer to help Iven finish and implement the last three items.

1) Content Management Webmaster: This is MOST critical!!!! Instructive, timely and informative content needs to be kept up to date. This is not what you are able to do, but, it is the first priority!!! (Rick, and other non-computer savvy people probably don't really understand the difference between a content manager and a programmer! Therefore, we need to carefully outline assignments and authorizations to be sure we are not confusing these two functions! If you are able to find such volunteers - how about helping Rick find a Content Manager volunteer!

2)On-line membership database: You apparently have the right skills to do this, so I suspect you can be of some good help to maybe even finish up and implement the On-Line PRA Membership database. I will ask Iven to send you the full database code that he has already written. He had been implementing a lot of functions that he and I and Jennifer have determined are needed with this database function. The on-line database needs to be managed by Jennifer, so all functions eventually need to be tested through her:
Tracking dues due
Members data

Automatic dues notifications
Tracking payments, membership types, address labels, etc.
Database management tools, reports, etc.
Credit Card and bank deposits interface, etc. etc.
See the attached Access database for some of the functions

[All_In]

John this is the most excited I’ve seen the rotor heads in a year or so (YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN!) Thank you



What Case?? They need to pull out from thier cranial recto sis.
If they (The old dudes) want to sit on their hands and wait for new members to come on board, (Good Luck with that) Gyro’s could die.
Keep it rolling John.

Fresh blood and new adventures, that’s what happens as the years go by. But experience is always a good thing.
Thanks again JohnI can't thank all of you enough. The support has been overwhelming and very appreciated.

We will get you what you all want one way or another it just may take longer than needed. I'm not going anywhere. I like you guys and your just do it spirit, we can do great thing together, so your all stuck with me.

Now who can be the content manager. Please help!

[gyroplanes]

I can't thank all of you enough. The support has been overwhelming and very appreciated.

Now who can be the content manager. Please help!

Hi John (and all)

I was asked, a while ago, to help manage the technical and certification information on the web site (IIRC) I would be happy to keep that part of the site up.

[All_In]

Hi John (and all)

I was asked, a while ago, to help manage the techincal and certification information on the web site (IIRC) I would be happy to keep that part of the site up.
Thank You
Tom you are great!!!
Can't wait to start working on the business side of the software with you!!!
Now we are moving forward!
Thanks Tom this helps right now, more than most here know!

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Tom, there is currently an aircraft certification section on the current website. There isn't any content there right now, so if you have some material that would be appropriate for it please pass it along and we'll get it up on the website pronto.

Thanks

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I just emailed Rick and others Tom!
Rick has not responded or accepted of course yet. But you must be one of the best candidates we could have ever hopped to do the job and this will help you and I design your information pages at the same time. Iven and I will write you some automatic programs for you once you tell me what you want that will eventually reduce you work load for both PRA and you at the same time. I love symbiotic business solutions. It’s like killing two birds with one stone!
Boy we got some really great people building PRA now!
More of you will be invited soon!!

Tom you really are the best. You are going to move us forward almost by yourself.
I so hopeful now, things just keep getting better.

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Tom, there is currently an aircraft certification section on the current website. There isn't any content there right now, so if you have some material that would be appropriate for it please pass it along and we'll get it up on the website pronto.

Thanks
Thanks Iven now we are moving!
Tom maybe you should call me and lets talk about what you want here and lets design your system for them? Or whatever you wish?

Thanks again Tom this is the last hole we have until the tools are online!!!

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Can you make a list of what kind of information people have asked you in the past and try and list the most sot after info at the top of the list!
If we could use your experience to try and remember what they wanted to know?