Checkride, airworthiness, hang test

[digbar]

Ed Newbold says I'm about ready to solo. Can I bring his recommendation to Mentone with me and get a checkride there?

Question 2: Can I trailer Gertie over get her airworthiness inspection done there?

Question: Can I get a hang test done at Mentone?

Assuming yes answers to these questions, I s'pose I'd even get to fly Gertie at Mentone, also.

Please, oh please tell me yes! This is my first vacation since two years ago at Mentone. Besides, I can't wait to hear what a deathtrap my Bensen is without an HS!

[Chuck Roberg]

Question 2: Can I trailer Gertie over get her airworthiness inspection done there?

Tom Milton will be doing airworthiness certifications at Mentone. If you want Tom to do it you need to contact him ASAP. Definitely before this weekend as he will be leaving for Oshkosh.
email: gyroplanes@aol.com or 1-708-895-0398 (h) leave a message if he's not there.

This is assuming you mean an airworthiness inspection for an N number.

[barnstorm2]

DigBar,

Congratulations!

It was great having you visit Chapter 40 the month before last.

As far as a check ride goes.. Sport Pilot or Private?

In ether case you will need to contact a CFI/Examiner that will be at Mentone NOW.

Most likely they will not want to do that during a busy time at Mentone but you might get to schedule one in if you act now and make plans now. You may have to make sure you go to Mentone early.

As far as flying goes.... You might be able to get a CFI sign off but solo-ing at a busy fly-in is not at good idea IMHO.

I think they want you to have a few hours under your belt before you fly at the show. You need to talk to Ed, your examiner and the Mentone Air Bosses about that.

See you there!!

[enewbold]

This will be a Sport Pilot Gyroplane add-on to your Fixed-Wing Private certificate. As long as you get my logbook endorsement as the training CFI that you are ready for the Proficiency Test, any other CFI who agrees to it can administer the Proficiency Test (which includes both oral exam and flying test).

In addition to your logbook endorsement, an FAA Form 8710-11 needs to be completed and presented to the examining CFI. (I have those forms with me at all times and will help you prepare one).

I would highly recommend doing the Proficiency Test in the same type machine you've been training in; e.g., RAF 2000, as the flying characteristics of a single seat Bensen are drastically different that those of the RAF 2000.

Your machine can be inspected by Tom Milton and issued an airworthiness certificate if it passes his inspection.

And, as Tim mentioned, it would be a little on the risky side to start flying your new Bensen right there at Mentone without some mentoring (I have a package ready for your use to help you along) prior to actually 'flying' it.

You can (and probably should) ask someone to do the first test flights of the Bensen for you; someone who has done a lot of test flying of these machines. Say, someone like Ron Awad? Ask nicely, and I'm sure he might bite! (smile)

I'll be arriving sometime Thursday afternoon, Roger. See you then!

Ed

[StanFoster]

Digbar: Your question about getting a hang test...I wish I could say yes. I just posted about hearing that there isnt a place high enough thats strong enough to do one. I want to demonstrate the double hang test that I did at Bensen Days. Several guys found their CG of their gyros with use of my laser beam and double hanging their gyros.


Stan

[Timchick]

If Mentone doesn't have anywhere to do hang tests maybe that should be on the to do list. It could be something as simple as an H-frame made out of telephone poles somewhere near the hangars. It could also double as a blade hoist.

[barnstorm2]

Duane Hunn works on gyros at the end of the hangars. I would be most surprised if he does not have a setup for hanging a ship.

You should give him a call.

[cgmg]

Roger,

Ditto on most of the comments you've garnered with your questions.

I fully understand your excitement about flying your new machine, with your new-found skills.

But:

You absolutely don't want to be the one test flying your machine. Even with 200 hours in my single place, I still was smart enough to have two other friends test fly my two-place before I ever even taxied it. This gave me valuable info on how the machine handled, and what to watch out for. You can't do this in your single place, but I had them fly with me several times to correct any mistakes I might make getting the feel of a new machine.

Being ready to solo does not mean you're ready to deal with Mentone flying. That activity includes radio directions from the ground crew, having to taxi to the other side of the runway, then wait your turn to re-take the runway. If you muff something in your takeoff, you now have to worry about affecting the landing traffic. And the even bigger issue, crowds. Crowds and new pilots make for really, really, bad results.

Your first 10-20 hours, at a minimum, should be spent in your machine, at your local airport, with no one around, and a quiet pattern. The only watchers you should allow are someone knowledgable about flying gyros.

Just my two cent's worth.

By all means, bring your gyro! This allows lots of experienced eyes to give you good info on potential problems.

Whatever you decide to do, welcome to the wonderful world of gyro flying!

[earthbnd misfit]

So tell us again why it hasn't got a HS ?

[Aussie_Paul]

So tell us again why it hasn't got a HS ?

John, I was going to ask the same question. :)

Aussie Paul. :)

[C. Beaty]

Ditto.......

[Chris Burgess]

It could be something as simple as an H-frame made out of telephone poles somewhere near the hangars. It could also double as a blade hoist.
I like the sound of that.

[Resasi]

'I can't wait to hear what a deathtrap my Bensen is without an HS!'

Odd comment for a relative newcomer to be making isn't it?

One thing to fly without one knowing the potential risks, another to seem to be cocking a snook. IMH and inexperienced opinion of course.

[ezeddie]

What is it with the dates in this thread? Is this the same continued conversation or a broken thread with no real connections ??

What ever happened in '07? :ohwell:

Thanks,
eddie

PS: Ed Newbold are you going to be teaching at Mentone '08/ I email your home last week, but no answer? Thanks

[Timchick]

This thread was revived because a spammer posted in it the other day and brought it back to life.

[earthbnd misfit]

Question: Can I get a hang test done at Mentone?
Yes by the neck, until you come to your senses.:laser:

[Chuck Roberg]

Good going Stan. I'm sure you will do well. :first:

I understand your stomach knot's. Mine did the same thing every time I added a rating.