View Full Version : I Flew My Gyro!!!
barnstorm2
06-07-2004, 06:37 AM
After many many months, and so many $ I can't bring myself to count reciepts it has finally happened.
MY GYRO FLEW!
I can't describe the feeling I had as my instructor taxied to the end of the runway and...
my baby... :eek:
my morgauge and payment for the next serveral years... :eek: :eek:
my hours and hours of time :eek: :eek: :eek:
Broke ground and climed into the sky! :D
After the first flights he had a list of trims and adjustments to make. Then a few hours later I got to fly with my instructor and fly it myself over the runway.
It was great to actually do it after X-billion times imagining it!
Chuck Irby
06-07-2004, 07:47 AM
Looking great Tim. Congratulations!
Mike Hook
06-07-2004, 08:03 AM
Way to gooooooooooooooo Tim. Your gyro looks great.
Mike
Chuck Roberg
06-07-2004, 08:25 AM
How are the engine temps?
Glad to see it in the air. :)
barnstorm2
06-07-2004, 08:41 AM
Thanks guys!
Chuck,
Temps are GREAT. Since I added the aux. heat exchanger she has never been above 200F. She does take a good while to warm up though :D
Kevin_Richey
06-07-2004, 08:54 AM
Thanks for the great photo, Tim!
I'll bet you'll never forget what it was like!!
Harry_S.
06-07-2004, 09:48 AM
It's great, it feels so good. Congratulations!!!
ToddP
06-07-2004, 10:19 AM
Tim,
It looks great. What a feeling to see something you built fly the first time.
Congrats.
Screw
06-07-2004, 10:39 AM
Screw-In
Go Baby, Go! Looks great, Have fun with it.
Screw-Out
barnstorm2
06-07-2004, 11:59 AM
Todd, Harry, Screw, Thanks!
Kevin,
I keep replaying it in my mind. I can't wait to get the trim issues sorted out (other thread). I have what seems like 100hrs of imaginary flying time in it but now that has all changed :D
I don't see how I could have pulled it out without help from my gyro pilot friends and instructor. I don't know if you know the machines history but it was an unfinished kit that I bought and found out later had also been damaged. The craft was rebuilt from the ground up with only a few parts from the original kit. The wheels, keel, blades, pod and 1/2 of the instruments are the only major parts I did not replace. I did not keep the old engine but I did keep the redrive and had it rebuilt.
Without the help of Rodney, DocJon and the other PRA chapter members I would have lost my mind*, given up or both. ( *there is some speculation that this was lost to begin with)
Having an instructor that is willing to test fly your machine and tell you what to trim and fix is not only invalueable but a literal lifesaver.
He took me for a ride in it and on the second takeoff as we went down the mile and a half runway he said 'you have it' and it all came together. If I would have had a free hand I would have pinched myself to make sure it was finally real! The end of the flight came much too quickly.
I can't wait to get it properly trimmed for two people and to get ready for solo!
skyflea73
06-07-2004, 12:10 PM
Looks Great! There is no feeling like the first time you solo. I know exactly what you are talking about when you said you need to pinch yourself to see if your really flying. Looks like you will be having a great summer. Wish you nothing but the best of flying weather and many happy hours in the sky!
Congratulations,
Darren Twellman
StanFoster
06-07-2004, 01:51 PM
Tim: Way to go.....that is a nice looking gyro...good job. Have fun flying.
Stan
Screw
06-07-2004, 02:17 PM
Screw-in
How did the gum thing work out? I assume it goes bad overnight, but if not, I wont waste it. :D
Screw-Out
barnstorm2
06-07-2004, 06:43 PM
Screw,
I am still working out the induced drag of Bubbleicious vrs Wrigleys. :D
barnstorm2
06-07-2004, 06:51 PM
Thanks Stan!
Thanks Darren! I don't think it will be as nerve wrenching as my first solo in my single place was.
But I think I have a mental dis-advantage. My single place came pre-built and has less than 1/3 of the $$ in it. I was not worried about denting it. Now, I am so worried about banging up the craft I hope I don't second guess myself and make a mistake!
I have about 80+ hours of flight time now but this side-by-side flys so differn't It is almost like starting over again!
GyroRon
06-07-2004, 07:03 PM
Be careful and have fun. Did it feel to have plenty of power with the two of you in it?
barnstorm2
06-07-2004, 07:29 PM
Ron,
Yes, she had power, we were crusing at 60mph down the runway with two heavy pilots, full gas in all 4 tanks.
I am sure the power will show up even more when I have the nose-down issue resolved. At the nose-down attitude it is wasting lots of power pushing down and working against me.
I'll bet it will be less of a 'handful' at slow speed once I get it all 'trimmed out'.
GyroRon
06-08-2004, 04:42 AM
Cruise speed is not important. Rate of climb in a gyro is the true test of power. How did she climb?
barnstorm2
06-08-2004, 05:08 AM
Ron,
Unknown. We only did low flights over the runway as she still has some trim issues to work out. Hopefully, this Sunday or the next I will be able to tell you.
GyroRon
06-08-2004, 05:11 AM
Ok. I am just curious as some machines are great with the EJ-22 and others are dogs. The RAF-2000 does really good with that engine package....
Chuck Irby
06-08-2004, 05:24 AM
I would bet bucks that Tim's machine will out perform a RAF with the same HP.
StanFoster
06-08-2004, 03:37 PM
Chuck: Even though I am very satisfied with my EJ22 in my RAF..I have to completely agree with you that a CLT machine has to be more efficient...dont see how it could not be....
I have my stab putting down force which naturally makes the gyro feel heavier to the rotor. This trade off is well worth it for making my RAF a very nice machine for me to fly.
Stan
Chuck Irby
06-08-2004, 06:14 PM
Stan, I was thinking primarily about the difference in the weight between the two machines. Did you see the pics I posted from yesterdays flying?
GyroRon
06-08-2004, 06:38 PM
Chuck I bet there is little weight difference between Tims Aircommand and Stans RAF. On my old RFI-150 - now yours - It would require nearly 5000 RPM to fly two heavy people and would take all she had to climb out on a hot day. I have only been in two RAFS but both were stock and the last one I rode in had my FAT butt in it plus another fat butt as in the pilot and it still climbed like a homesick angel. Cruised effortlessly at 4500 rpm. The RFI had 30 more hp and a four bladed prop....
Chuck Irby
06-08-2004, 06:55 PM
Well, I guess that just shows to go you, huh? I figured there'd be 100 or more pounds difference.
StanFoster
06-08-2004, 07:22 PM
I dont have a VSI in my RAF,,but I have been taking my 270 pound son along several times. It takes about 4500 rpm to maintain altitude. My worst condtion was him on board with my 220 pound self, and full fuel...plus 85 degrees and humid. I wanted to see the worst case scenario that I would ever attempt. It flew fine...but the climb rate was not good....but just reread what I was hauling...and it was no surprise. 490 pounds of pilot/passenger.....22 gallons of fuel.....and a high density altitude.
Stan
StanFoster
06-08-2004, 07:35 PM
I meant to add this to my last post....My son just loves flying in my RAF..and I am considering this winter when I am doing the annual...converting it to fuel injection. I am told it will gain 10 horses....burn about a gallon less an hour....burn 87 instead of 93.....and no carb ice. A win...win..win..win.. situation with the exception of the outlay to convert it. Now that I have a machine that I will be flying a lot...and doing so 12 months a year...the fuel savings along will pay for the fuel injection quickly. :D
Stan
Aussie_Paul
06-08-2004, 11:37 PM
Stan you said, I have my stab putting down force which naturally makes the gyro feel heavier to the rotor. This trade off is well worth it for making my RAF a very nice machine for me to fly.
Stan if it is not your stab opposing the PPO of the high thrust line then it will have to be the rotor. In the Raf case it is a combination of both as all the stabs availible for a Raf cannot do it on their own, unless there is a stab out there for a Raf that is the size of two kitchen tables, that I have not seen. :eek:
Aussie Paul.
Bob Simmons
09-14-2004, 09:51 AM
wow! I know the feeling Tim. Congratulations!!!
jawbrey
09-14-2004, 10:14 AM
gyro looks great good work enjoy many hours of safe flight james awbrey
barnstorm2
09-14-2004, 11:25 AM
Thanks Bob and Jawbrey!
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