View Full Version : Which rotorblade do you like the most?
05-06-2004, 02:13 PM
Which rotorblade do you like the most?
05-06-2004, 03:24 PM
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05-07-2004, 07:29 AM
For me no doubt Mc Cutchens are the best. I fly the 27 ft long on my Parsons dual seat powered by a Rotax 582 and can lift two heavy persons with excellent rate of climb. I dont have any prerotator as they are very easy to hand start. them. I had the opportunity to test fly some other blades 29 ft long on my gyro (not DW) but I can
confirm that the 27ft Mc Cutchen are much much better. Also practicing dead stick landings Sky Wheels are the best.
05-24-2004, 05:48 AM
Ask John Stevens about his new dragon wings!
05-24-2004, 10:05 AM
Love dem "Dragon Wings." Very smooth!
Originally flew McCutchens, then my wife flapped them. Now fly Dragon Wings, and wouldn't go back to McCutchens even if I could.
Two reasons: first, I can get up to 3 tries at landing with the Dragon Wings, and second, McCutchens are heavy , especially if you haul your gyro around a lot.
05-25-2004, 03:45 PM
What do you mean about "I can get up to 3 tries at landing with the Dragon Wings" :confused:
05-25-2004, 09:40 PM
A.k. extruded aluminium.
Note; this is only the oppinion of a SCG , grow'n SC.
05-26-2004, 04:35 PM
best blades are the one you can buy. Looking to get an opinion to steer you in the right direction is like asking the lotto number. I have flown old bense,rotorhawk, mccutchen,rotordyne old and new, stancy, wood blades from Vitnam etc. All performed inside there envelop.
Bad to strt, buy a prerotator, float alot but can not go too fast, then fly slow. The point is you have to deal with what you can buy. If you ask me I would by a Grown Hawk and forget about the rest. But have not hit the lotto yet. Juyst get anything and start practicing.
05-26-2004, 06:10 PM
Chuck, the thing is that I haven't hit the "lotto" either. So I can afford to buy a pair of blade and, then later buy a different blade becouse the first one din't full feel my needs. So, I just want to get a pair of blade that, for long time, I will not have to change. So I just need something that I will say "This F@#!*% $_______ was well spend, on this blade. It was worth it! ". I really can affort to experiment! :D
What I meant by up to three landings was that the Dragon Wings allow for more "float" time than McCutchens. With the McCutchens, if I didn't get the landing right the first time, there was no energy left to try again, so I would suffer a hard landing.
With the Dragon Wings, if I pull up to stop the float too soon, they will spin back up enough to allow me to land with a controlled float, sometimes up to the third time.
One caveat to the third landing claim: I weigh in at 145 pounds loaded for bear. Most pilots are a lot heavier, but I would guess they would still get at least a second try at coming back down at a reasonable descent rate.
With the McCutchens, I was never able to get even the second attempt at a smooth landing. Once I ballooned up, I knew it was going to be a harder landing than I like to make.
As Ron likes to say, "Just my two cents worth."
05-26-2004, 07:42 PM
cgmg OK!! Now I understand Thank you ! :D
05-26-2004, 07:53 PM
Jose, just go buy a set of dragon wings and get on to the next thing on the list. Your not going to find blades much cheaper than dragon wings and your not going to find blades much better than dragon wings. So it sounds like a win win situation to me.
Don't forget that it is a kinda rite of passage that most newbies will bend up at least one set of blades learning to fly. I don't totally believe that but it is a possiblity, so buy cheap for now and if you smack them it won't hurt your pocketbook so bad!
AND.... I have yet to recieve that video tape you told me you were sending.
05-26-2004, 09:13 PM
Thank you Ron . That is what I was tryin to get "OPINION ON BEHAVIOR OF BLADES".That is why I ask:
"Which rotorblade do you like the most?".
For example: Take it like a gyro"consumer report", you don't need to by a Mercedes Bens to have a nice road ride. when you can by a Lexus, Infinity,Honda,and have the same experience "with alote less money". Unfortunelly we don't have blades stores that you can go to the seller and tell him:" hey! can I have a test drive on dose blades?" So the only gyro "consumer reports" is this forum. Every one has try different blades and can tell us "THE NEWBIES" there experience with different kind of blades. like Ron says:" It won't hurt your pocketbook so bad!." :D
Oh Ron about the video, I send it 2 weeks 1/2 ago! on the address you gave me. That is the efficency of the USPS! :D let give it one more week, and if it dosen't arrive I send you another one. :cool:
05-27-2004, 02:21 AM
I never bend any blade. Reason training,training. And I startyed with the bensen methode. One thing I have seen is people dont write or read. You teach them what is blade flapping how to avoid and correct . And the first thing they do when they sit on the gyro is forget every thing.
So if every person will bend at least a blade once in his life time I think I should buy some stock from Enrnie's.
Bottom line mentall rehersal and awarenss save the day
05-27-2004, 03:17 AM
Jose, DW's for your machine would be my preference.
05-27-2004, 05:25 AM
Everyone will have their own favorites. I have flown many blades myself and haven't flown a set yet that I didn't like. Dragon wings are alot of blade for the money and I think they are the best choice for you.
Chuck P. I too have never bent a blade, but I did flap a set twice trying to get off the ground too soon with no pre rotator. I supose there is no reason a newbie should bend a set of blades up, but it has happened alot in the past and I think it will still happen in the Future to a few unlucky newbies here and there.
Jose 2.5 weeks and still no tape. Mail sucks! I will give it another week. thanks
05-27-2004, 11:19 AM
I started with a set of Brock Blades for my KB-2. Not ever flying any other blades and transitioning from a parsons 4 with mcCutches to my machine was like night and day anyways. When I flew mine for the first time with 22ft. Brocks, they spun up quick and to me flew fine until I flew on a windy day. Downwind turns were scary. I wiegh 218lbs. My gyro full fuel and me was 563lbs. I tried a 4 foot rotor bar and this worked so much better. I floated alot and the blades were fine but a little shaky and my engine temperatures were through the roof trying to fly that much wieght and that draggy of blades. Given my stock mast hieght I was at risk of tail and ground strikes though. Nose down at full throttle I might see 70mph every now and again with cylinder head temps under the bolt (not the Plug) in excess of 450 degrees.
As a suggestion from members of this forum, they recommended I try a set of DW. I spoke with Mike Boyette and spoke with Ernie and everyone was in agreement that given the wieght and mast hieght, I should go with a set of 23 foot DWs.
I bought a used set from DocJon because I wasn't sure about all of the hype. I have been totally amazed ever since. These blades are smoother than a babies bottom. Somebody said they would be hard to spin up. Although I agree they take a little longer, I don't agree they are hard to spin up at all! This 23 foot blade system gave everybit, if not more, lift as the 24 Brock blades and I'm cruising at about 73mph with temps readings around 375!
I too have flared a little early, and still made very nice 5mph landings out of it. Flying, I have yet to have any stick shake!
I like them so much, I'm considering selling the used ones I have in favor of brand new because Mike and Ernie really sold me on them, and I kinda feel bad that I bought used from someone else rather than giving them my business. They really earned it, but I didn't want to come out of pocket until I was sure that these were the blades for me.
Most here know that I'm currently working on a Little Wing LW-4. I will be using Dragon Wings on it as well.
05-27-2004, 12:23 PM
You guys are great! . I am really happy that I found a new great good family"PRA" not the new "PRASS" org. Thank you "always" for all your advise. :D
05-27-2004, 04:18 PM
Thank you very much for the kind words. I knew that if you tried a set of DW's. You would be hooked. I am glad to see you are buying a new set for your LW. THanks again.
05-27-2004, 05:51 PM
Mark said - "Two reasons: first, I can get up to 3 tries at landing with the Dragon Wings, and second, McCutchens are heavy , especially if you haul your gyro around a lot"
I am curious, Have Dragon wings changed? I have had something to do with an early set only, and though the performance was good, you certainly did not get three tries at landing.
05-27-2004, 05:52 PM
Mine nver worked like that for me either. Must have been a special set!
05-27-2004, 09:20 PM
I've never gotten three attempts, but I did get 2 once. That post about the DW vs. McCutchens didn't make much since to me iether. On Steve's machine, because the McCutchins are heavier, they have alot more inertia, and to me alittle more forgiving.
But the DW are very light weight, and the performance to me is awsome! 73mph @ 80% throttle and only 375 head temps on an 1835cc VW KB2 that wieghs 563lbs! I'm very happy :D
11-03-2004, 03:27 AM
Hi, please I would want to know the web site of Dragon Wing.
11-03-2004, 05:24 AM
I just bought me a set of 23's
The only thing special about our set of Dragon Wings is that I weigh in fully loaded for flight at under 150 pounds. I have gotten 2 attempts at landing consistently when I'm a little rusty, or landing in gusty conditions. I've only had one time when I got three attempts, so maybe I got extremely lucky that one time. My mistake was not making a disclaimer that it was a 1-time happening.
My personal lack of ballast is one of the other reasons I like the DW's so much over the McCutchens. My McCutchens weighed half my body weight, and I would be worn out from handling them any time I had to re-mount them.
I totally agree with Ron on one thing: DW's are the best bang for the buck out there for any single-place machine.
11-18-2004, 06:58 PM
how do you figure what length? I see where there is a veried opinion on make
like Ford or Chevy. But regardless of brand of rotor, would the diameter be a constant?
11-19-2004, 12:33 AM
Newbies should stick to alloys in my humble opion, they are straight forward to fly. I also reckon newbies have an increased chance of bending a set of rotors so it makes sense to not blow the budget first off, in fact my thoughts are that a newbie's first gyro should be a second hand gyro, do some flying then when they have experience they will know more likely what they might need.
11-19-2004, 12:54 AM
I second that advice Brian
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