PRA Chapter 40 Newsletter Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky

[barnstorm2]

Here is the first Chapter 40 newsletter in some time.

It is a small one but it is a good re-start for a great chapter.

Please pass it on to anyone you know who might be interested! :typing:

[WHY]

Hi Tim

Ready the Chapter 40 newsletter and feel the item # 5 in the letter is open to some serious debate, granted if you are building a open frame style high thrustline such as a modified Bensen style where you just add water and stir the building of a gyro does not take to much time . However you will also have a gyro that has questionalble stability and a not so good track record.

If you choosse to build one of the more recent designs that have the clt and the better Horizontal stabs then it will take some time.

The concept of "build it in a week or two" is where we in the gyro community have gotten spoiled, in the fixed wing community 6 months is like a bolt of lightning and a year is considered fast. While I do not think it should be expected several years fixed like some of the fixed wings do, I do feel that we in the gyro community should take a serious look at what is necessary to build the newer style gyro's .


Tony

[Heron]

Tim O and THE CRA . . .congratulations!
Tony:
Please elaborate on time frame for a gyro building, start from scratch, pre-assembled sub kits and complete kit assembly.
Also:
Divide a gyro in parts (families, assembies, sub-kits, etc)
thanks
Heron

[barnstorm2]

Tony,

The newsletter is just a brief listing of the topics discussed so that we can keep members that did not attend up to speed on what is on 'the chapter's mind' so to speak. It does not include the full out come (if any) of the discussion.

To address your post. What the members were talking about was the "can't do it" attidude many younger people have perhaps because they have heard that fixed wings can take a year or more to complete.

We were not discussing any type of gyro specificly. Scratch builts of any kind as well as kits are often thought of as too hard to build but for someone with a garage and basic automotive tools it is actually quite feasable.

Personally, I found it no more difficult nor time consuming to build a CLT machine then a HTL machine.

A bee is a NCLT machine and even a first time scratch builder with dedication and the support of a good chapter should be able to complete it in under 100-150 hours. That is MUCH less then impossible and certainly much easyer then building a fixed wing even from a kit.

But back to your point.

I have put together both a HTL Air command and a CLT air command. There was no appreciable difference in the build time.

Can you please elaborate on why adding a HStab and builing a CLT would take so much more time?

[Gary_in_Orygun]

For those interested, Chapter 73 has been cranking out newsletters monthly and can be viewed at: http://pra73.net/Past_NL.htm. Many times I glean/beg/borrow/steal material from this forum for our computer-challenged PRA73 members. I consider it a teaser for more people to get over here to the Rotary forum.

[WHY]

Hi Tim

Being a tractor builder, this is where I'm coming from, you would be building a a fuselage instead of a frame.

The tractor ,to me represents the ultimate in stability.

Tony

[Dean_Dolph]

Tim, it is good to see Chap 40 up and running again. I saw Frank Black in one of the pix so you have one of the 'ole' hands available to you and that is an asset. Now if you can just entice Johnny Hay and El Alderfer to participate....... And what about Hank Hinchmann?